Soviets go Guards Motor every game. Yawn.
As Ostheer Stug Gs are God, that and CAS.
OKW Battlegroup HQ is mandatory because of basically free maphack.
As USF the AT snare nerf means Shermans are going to have fun vs Ostheer. The holy trinity of Gren, Pak, and Tiger has been a lot and Ostheer will suffer vs Sherman spam.
Other thoughts?
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17 Jun 2015, 23:17 PM
#1
Posts: 1891
The Fascisti Will Pay.
17 Jun 2015, 23:21 PM
#2
Posts: 1304 | Subs: 13
Soviets go Guards Motor every game. Yawn.
As Ostheer Stug Gs are God, that and CAS.
OKW Battlegroup HQ is mandatory because of basically free maphack.
As USF the AT snare nerf means Shermans are going to have fun vs Ostheer. The holy trinity of Gren, Pak, and Tiger has been a lot and Ostheer will suffer vs Sherman spam.
Other thoughts?
Having used the old Stug Gs against USF which excelled if you could get something like a PIV to meatshield, USF may find that massed medium armour is its greatest weakness. With the health buff, Stugs probably going to smash USF armour so cost-effectively it won't even be funny since Jacksons will need three shots to kill it and Shermans will need four while the Stug G 3-4 shot each of these vehicles and it fires faster than all of them. Of course USF can flank and smoke, but if there's a Pak behind, good luck as one pak shot will allow fausts to engine crit. And since it's the Ost vs USF match-up there's always going to be a pak around.
Add spotting scopes for greater smashing and laughing power.
17 Jun 2015, 23:25 PM
#3
Posts: 1891
Massed medium armor is also debatably the strength of the USF-Wolverines, Jacksons, HE Shermans, and HMCs are debatably best in class for each price bracket, and all can self repair and have radio net. If medium armor spam becomes Ostheer meta then this patch will be a hell of a time.
The Fascisti Will Pay.
18 Jun 2015, 00:30 AM
#4
Posts: 952
I'll cast my lot in with Guard Motor vs CASmacht.
18 Jun 2015, 01:05 AM
#5
Posts: 1072
Soviets go Guards Motor every game. Yawn.
As Ostheer Stug Gs are God, that and CAS.
OKW Battlegroup HQ is mandatory because of basically free maphack.
As USF the AT snare nerf means Shermans are going to have fun vs Ostheer. The holy trinity of Gren, Pak, and Tiger has been a lot and Ostheer will suffer vs Sherman spam.
Other thoughts?
I assume you are referring to the 200 mp infrared half track?
If you want map hacks put spotting scopes on a 222. It doubles the scout cars LOS and only costs 30 munitions.
18 Jun 2015, 01:21 AM
#6
Posts: 3103 | Subs: 1
I assume you are referring to the 200 mp infrared half track?
If you want map hacks put spotting scopes on a 222. It doubles the scout cars LOS and only costs 30 munitions.
Well, not if you're OKW in 1v1.
18 Jun 2015, 01:34 AM
#7
18 Jun 2015, 02:01 AM
#8
Posts: 3552 | Subs: 2
I will be interested to see what happens with a 200 MP unit you can salvage for 15 fuel.
Build IR Halftrack
Attack Ground with Shreks
Salvage
Repeat
Even better with Salvage Doctrine.
Build IR Halftrack
Attack Ground with Shreks
Salvage
Repeat
Even better with Salvage Doctrine.
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PS: The Italian Army fought with courage and skill
18 Jun 2015, 02:47 AM
#9
Posts: 1468 | Subs: 4
For soviet: t3 or t4 into ISUs or is2s. People will still play 85s but they won't be as strong.
CAS will be the strongest doctrine imo. Along with Lightning war, blitzkrieg, mech assault.
USF will be pretty much the same. Maybe the 50cal will be built.
Okw: Luftwaffe and fort since mg34s should be very cost effective. JLI and fusilier good too.
Overall more teching from soviet and ost.
CAS will be the strongest doctrine imo. Along with Lightning war, blitzkrieg, mech assault.
USF will be pretty much the same. Maybe the 50cal will be built.
Okw: Luftwaffe and fort since mg34s should be very cost effective. JLI and fusilier good too.
Overall more teching from soviet and ost.
18 Jun 2015, 03:39 AM
#10
Posts: 1891
I could see fast Stuart, too. Very reliable counter to Flaktrack, Scout Car, Sniper, and call-in troops.
The Fascisti Will Pay.
18 Jun 2015, 03:44 AM
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Posts: 446 | Subs: 2
People will still play 85s but they won't be as strong.I'm confused. If anything, there will be more--they're still call-in-without-tech, and now that you can only have one heavy, well...
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The most important type of diversity is viewpoint diversity.
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18 Jun 2015, 03:57 AM
#12
Posts: 1072
I'm confused. If anything, there will be more--they're still call-in-without-tech, and now that you can only have one heavy, well...
No. Not call-ins. Soon.
18 Jun 2015, 04:38 AM
#13
Posts: 1705
Guard motor.Especially in high teamgames,lol.Don't even bother playing as axis.
18 Jun 2015, 05:29 AM
#14
Posts: 2487 | Subs: 21
85s, 85s and Guards everywhere.
Seriously.
Every game you play it'll be like:
Seriously.
Every game you play it'll be like:
18 Jun 2015, 05:33 AM
#15
Posts: 1891
...but Stugs!
The Fascisti Will Pay.
18 Jun 2015, 07:41 AM
#16
8 Posts: 2470
the new meta will be complaining about anything relic breaks, anything that wasn't fixed, and making predictions about the next patch.
here's to another couple months.
here's to another couple months.
18 Jun 2015, 16:20 PM
#17
Posts: 446 | Subs: 2
Yeah, I do bet the other changes that... may or may not be occurring, will come with the brits, but this thread is about the 23rd patch, silly!
No. Not call-ins. Soon.
Dear Lord, teach me to be generous; to give and not count the cost; to fight and not heed the wounds; to work and ask for no reward, save that of knowing I am doing Your will.
Argumentation, disagreement, and debate are critical for success.
The most important type of diversity is viewpoint diversity.
Argumentation, disagreement, and debate are critical for success.
The most important type of diversity is viewpoint diversity.
18 Jun 2015, 16:36 PM
#18
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Posts: 658
I will be interested to see what happens with a 200 MP unit you can salvage for 15 fuel.
Build IR Halftrack
Attack Ground with Shreks
Salvage
Repeat
Even better with Salvage Doctrine.
Salvaging only yields 5 fuel (+ 15MU with scavenger doctrine).
18 Jun 2015, 17:25 PM
#19
Posts: 82
85's everywhere!! That's what you'll see.
18 Jun 2015, 17:54 PM
#20
Posts: 3103 | Subs: 1
85's everywhere!! That's what you'll see.
Historically accurate.
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