Add Guards with PPSH in some Commanders

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What's your Point of this Idea?

Yes: They have one in the Sherman Commander but only with the Vehicle!

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I don't really see the point. They are just poor-mans shocktroopers. Both conscript PPSH upgrades and Shocktroopers are better than Assault Guards (or whatever they are called).

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12 Sep 2014, 21:52 PMAerohank

I don't really see the point. They are just poor-mans shocktroopers. Both conscript PPSH upgrades and Shocktroopers are better than Assault Guards (or whatever they are called).

You forgot that assault guards have normal grenade not the molotov.

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Whats the point of having inferior shocks with no armor or smoke?
They work ok within the doctrine they are in. Otherwise they would be a horrible unit.

25 Nov 2015, 11:09 AM$nuffy

Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.

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Not sure if PPSH is the answer, I do think Guards need to be re-evaluated though.

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12 Sep 2014, 21:59 PMjackill2611

You forgot that assault guards have normal grenade not the molotov.

You are correct, but neither do they have any AT or sprint.

Assault Guards are just terribly expensive ppsh conscripts with a bit more DPS and none of the utility. The only reason to ever get them in their current state is when you want a halftrack but you don't want to build T3.

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Don't they come with PPSH and SVT?

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I don't think they would serve much purpose in the game. Their role would overlap with shock troops except they're not as great as shocks. i.e Poor man's shock troops

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13 Sep 2014, 03:12 AMsteel

I don't think they would serve much purpose in the game. Their role would overlap with shock troops except they're not as great as shocks. i.e Poor man's shock troops

+1

Too many short range units in soviet army.

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Instead of this give Guards branching weapon upgrades. 2 buffed PTRS or 2 DP-28. this way if you pick a commander with them early and don't face vehicles you can use them with 6 Mosins to deal dps and throw nades.

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TBFH, I quite like the SVT + PPSh combo--if they were cheaper (i.e. not bundled with an M5) I'd probably use them a lot more.

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