Some suggestion for Puma with Soviet
24 Aug 2014, 16:20 PM
#1
Posts: 63
How can i handle a Puma with soviets? If i had not choose Guards, T34 are unuseful and conscript too now that they had nerfed the AT nade (why??). Puma if fast, and smoke saves him when in trouble....
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24 Aug 2014, 16:22 PM
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what AT nade nerf are you referring to? its not like it can bounce off the pumas armor
try using zis
try using zis
24 Aug 2014, 17:07 PM
#3
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As soviet I always go for T4 and it pays me of. I had game where OKW guy had 3 Pumas while I had just 1 SU-85. He did not even reach it. 2-3xGuards, 2x ZiS (in unexpected spots or with camouflage) and what's the most important a lot of mines on SU-85 sides and back which is not difficult since soviets have a lot of ammo.
But it's very strange that I have to use many different units to kill Pumas.
But it's very strange that I have to use many different units to kill Pumas.
24 Aug 2014, 17:25 PM
#4
Posts: 63
At nade now are not target the enemy tank but the ground, so is very easy to avoid.
For kill a Puma (T2 unit) you suggest me to use a Su85 plus a couple of ZiS, and Guards (that are doctrine specified).... it's strange!
Furthermore, if i had choosen another doc, i have lost the match??
For kill a Puma (T2 unit) you suggest me to use a Su85 plus a couple of ZiS, and Guards (that are doctrine specified).... it's strange!
Furthermore, if i had choosen another doc, i have lost the match??
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24 Aug 2014, 17:29 PM
#5
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In this game, molotovs arent the weapon that damages tanks...
24 Aug 2014, 18:10 PM
#6
Posts: 63
In this game, molotovs arent the weapon that damages tanks...
infact i talk about AT Nade, not molotov.
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26 Aug 2014, 03:38 AM
#7
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infact i talk about AT Nade, not molotov.
AT Nade does not target the ground - it targets the vehicle and follows it. Against a Puma you're guaranteed a damaged engine. I suggest you try it again - maybe you just miss-clicked or he drove out of range before you could get it off?
The Puma can be purchased relatively quickly but is expensive for OKW considering it has limited anti infantry capabilities. If you can take it out it's a big blow. A T34 should be able to take it out if microed properly. If he micros the Puma better than you micro your T34 he will win though.
The easiest non-doctrinal solution is AT guns - even if he flanks them he won't be doing much damage to them. Coupled with an AT nade on them he's toast. I've seem Pumas taken out with AT nades alone so there's a solution as well.
26 Aug 2014, 03:43 AM
#8
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At nade now are not target the enemy tank but the ground, so is very easy to avoid.
For kill a Puma (T2 unit) you suggest me to use a Su85 plus a couple of ZiS, and Guards (that are doctrine specified).... it's strange!
Furthermore, if i had choosen another doc, i have lost the match??
What the hell are you playing?
26 Aug 2014, 08:01 AM
#9
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Think at this: while your okw enemy is struggling to build a Puma, you will build 2 T34s. I suppose you heard about fuel caches, didn't you?
BeefSurge wrote:
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
26 Aug 2014, 09:19 AM
#10
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^That's utter bullshit. It takes 110 fuel for OKW to rush out a Puma. It takes over 320 to get 2 T34s.
26 Aug 2014, 09:31 AM
#11
Posts: 65
As long as you can force the Puma to stay at range (mines, AT nades, field guns), he wont do much dmg. At my last game as Soviets vs an early Puma, it lived 13 min and did 10 inf kills.
27 Aug 2014, 15:23 PM
#12
Posts: 262
Furthermore, if i had choosen another doc, i have lost the match??
Yeap, you will lose every single match if they use puma and u don't build exactly that strat and that doc. Joke aside, l2p.. it is unit that cost 70 fuel for OKW and is only effective against something with medium armor. Two ZiS are enough, and that doesn't mean that u build two ZiS just to deal with a puma, dont worry u can still use them against tanks and infantry if u use barrage. But u probably trolling by writing that post, that or your going places
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27 Aug 2014, 15:34 PM
#13
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As long as you can force the Puma to stay at range (mines, AT nades, field guns), he wont do much dmg. At my last game as Soviets vs an early Puma, it lived 13 min and did 10 inf kills.
10 inf kills in 13 mins...lol, and some people say that its antiinfantry ability is *super-excellent*
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27 Aug 2014, 15:42 PM
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10 inf kills in 13 mins...lol, and some people say that its antiinfantry ability is *super-excellent*
Watch how Siberian for example uses them.
Its not rare to see 20+ kills on them.
Thats pretty good for dedicated AT, don't you think?
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
27 Aug 2014, 16:06 PM
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Remember when the SU85 could kill infantry models? I do.
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27 Aug 2014, 16:12 PM
#16
Posts: 752
Let this bad thread expire please.
Its 3 days necro, and already dead on arrival.
Its 3 days necro, and already dead on arrival.
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