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Make Valentine and Commander vehicle be one ability?

19 Sep 2021, 08:48 AM
#1
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Replace all Designate commander vehicle by Valentine,add Recon plane to Valentine,Commander vehicle buff only work when Valentine use Observation mode,Observation mode still lock maingun.
MMX
19 Sep 2021, 09:00 AM
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why though??
19 Sep 2021, 10:18 AM
#3
avatar of Vipper

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Making a designed command vehicle will make it easier to balance the unit, in pop/damage/cost.


Actually the can be 2 version of the unit (or 3) a normal one, a command vehicle one (and artillery one) all thou I would rather move that ability to officer.
19 Sep 2021, 12:52 PM
#4
avatar of WAAAGH2000

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jump backJump back to quoted post19 Sep 2021, 09:00 AMMMX
why though??

I think UKF unit use too many population,and although commander vehicle is good buff,but it debuff will make target vehicle almost only can be meat shield.And Valentine is UKF really needed unit,for most commander will make UKF stronger,also make more commander useful.
19 Sep 2021, 13:00 PM
#5
avatar of Katukov

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you use less pop if you use AEC as a command vehicle
MMX
19 Sep 2021, 14:40 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post19 Sep 2021, 13:00 PMKatukov
you use less pop if you use AEC as a command vehicle


this

in addition, you can convert the AEC once the lv phase is over to get a bit more usefulness out of a unit that would otherwise fall off hard in the lategame. and that is instead of having to call in yet another unit eating up valuable popcap.

you'd also lose a lot of flexibility in case, for whatever reason, you don't have an AEC at the time or, again for whatever reason want to convert any other tank into a command vehicle (you normally wouldn't unless the AEC died).

so all in all you wouldn't gain anything from the proposed change except for fancy visuals - paid for with a big net nerf for the ability itself. a change for the sake of changing and definitely not worth it in my opinion.
19 Sep 2021, 14:55 PM
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avatar of Katukov

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jump backJump back to quoted post19 Sep 2021, 14:40 PMMMX


this

in addition, you can convert the AEC once the lv phase is over to get a bit more usefulness out of a unit that would otherwise fall off hard in the lategame. and that is instead of having to call in yet another unit eating up valuable popcap.

you'd also lose a lot of flexibility in case, for whatever reason, you don't have an AEC at the time or, again for whatever reason want to convert any other tank into a command vehicle (you normally wouldn't unless the AEC died).

so all in all you wouldn't gain anything from the proposed change except for fancy visuals - paid for with a big net nerf for the ability itself. a change for the sake of changing and definitely not worth it in my opinion.


the AEC has a vehicle stun ability that has a large range so it becoming practically useless once converted is basically nullified, and your infantry become extremely potent because of the aura
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