The maxim seems like a viable strat again, but we will have to wait until we have a replay of Zarok or VonIvan playing maxim spam before we can tell if its OP or not. 
Ost T4 is still poo. 
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Maxim spam cannot work, setup time is too long and supression isn´t instand to just spam maxims.
Cons are a good suportive unit that suplements maxims well and can do their duties once vet too
There is no way how to counter is2 without stugs or tiger I think.
Pgrens look fine.
Shocks grenade is still bugged and deals zero damage to buildings (and units inside them). I think it´s time to change its stats to make shocks so-so viable without reworking them. I think you can write shock grenade change under bugs/QOL changes - I think all you need is to change it from small explosive to something, idk
			
		Cons are a good suportive unit that suplements maxims well and can do their duties once vet too
There is no way how to counter is2 without stugs or tiger I think.
Pgrens look fine.
Shocks grenade is still bugged and deals zero damage to buildings (and units inside them). I think it´s time to change its stats to make shocks so-so viable without reworking them. I think you can write shock grenade change under bugs/QOL changes - I think all you need is to change it from small explosive to something, idk
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The maxim seems like a viable strat again, but we will have to wait until we have a replay of Zarok or VonIvan playing maxim spam before we can tell if its OP or not.
I played one vs zarok, didn't save the replay but the current 4 volks w/ infil+flame nades -> luchs meta seemed to work fine vs full maxims. Midgame is where it gets dicey and you start to feel the maxim buff, but OKW still has more than enough raw power to get P4 / KT / whatever and deal with it imo even without LEIGs.
Haven't faced it with ostheer but i'd think they wouldn't have a problem; they never suffered as badly as okw since they always had a good mortar / flame HT / sniper even when maxim was really strong.
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I played one vs zarok, didn't save the replay but the current 4 volks w/ infil+flame nades -> luchs meta seemed to work fine vs full maxims. Midgame is where it gets dicey and you start to feel the maxim buff, but OKW still has more than enough raw power to get P4 / KT / whatever and deal with it imo even without LEIGs.
Haven't faced it with ostheer but i'd think they wouldn't have a problem; they never suffered as badly as okw since they always had a good mortar / flame HT / sniper even when maxim was really strong.
Understood, i'll assume maxims are in a good place for now

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