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How to win against LeIG and other spams

by zerocoh 20th October 2015, 02:02 AM
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  • [00:01:08] Ludendorff: gl hf btw
  • [00:01:13] Zero: u2
  • [00:01:13] Arthur: u2
  • [00:12:20] Zero: spam more nades
  • [00:12:33] Arthur: Aan leigs
  • [00:44:27] Zero: spam more
  • [00:45:39] Arthur: gg
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20 Oct 2015, 02:02 AM
#1
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Watch how to deal with leig spam, incendiaries and panthers.
21 Oct 2015, 06:57 AM
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I might look at it
22 Oct 2015, 05:19 AM
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Hello, I made a video and I have to say... holy crap why did you loose that many IS-2s, all the losses were avoidable especially the first one you got a bit greedy there. Combined with poor communications between you and your ally I'm surprised the game ended the way it did. Solid comeback but that early/mid/early late game was pretty shocking.

If you want a more indepth video see video bellow.


I wouldn't mind knowing what was going through your head at times, (especially when your ally was being derp) otherwise good game and a solid comeback.

:wub: your use of democharges.
27 Oct 2015, 23:22 PM
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Sorry dude, forgot about this, so first things first.

I floated on the start because I was going for a "non meta" strat that I was trying early that I call 2-2-2-2 (kinda like on footbal) where I go 2 cons, 2 engies, 2 team weapons and since the enemy entrenched themselves with 2 LeIG and 2 snipers the best choice was 2 katyushas.

you see, the KV-8 is not OP as people say it is, it is actually just "ok", It does a lot of damage, but It is very slow and very weak against any AT, so it's not recommended for breakthrough. Also I wanted to take that flaktruck ASAP so SU + Katy was a nice combo since I could demolish building and harass their leigs.

First IS2 died cause I got suprised by so many panthers.

Gotta say I was very dissapointed that you didn't mention my smokes :(

incendiary arty is useless now, unless you REALLY want to deny an area, cause any axis infantry can dance on the fire forever without taking damage.

as for the maxims and AT's "facing the wrong direction" they werent, I just leave them like that so it can get positioned properly, especially the maxim that have awful arc of fire and gets flanked all the time, this way you can face it properly or retreat if caught by surprise.

Any other mistakes was because I was too pressed on dodging those damn ISG, infantry can't stop for more than one second or they will get hammered.

also, in the current state of the game, you can't be aggressive as allies or you will totally lose map control and bleed too much manpower.
28 Oct 2015, 13:05 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post27 Oct 2015, 23:22 PMzerocoh
Sorry dude, forgot about this, so first things first.

I floated on the start because I was going for a "non meta" strat that I was trying early that I call 2-2-2-2 (kinda like on footbal) where I go 2 cons, 2 engies, 2 team weapons and since the enemy entrenched themselves with 2 LeIG and 2 snipers the best choice was 2 katyushas.

you see, the KV-8 is not OP as people say it is, it is actually just "ok", It does a lot of damage, but It is very slow and very weak against any AT, so it's not recommended for breakthrough. Also I wanted to take that flaktruck ASAP so SU + Katy was a nice combo since I could demolish building and harass their leigs.

First IS2 died cause I got suprised by so many panthers.

Gotta say I was very dissapointed that you didn't mention my smokes :(

incendiary arty is useless now, unless you REALLY want to deny an area, cause any axis infantry can dance on the fire forever without taking damage.

as for the maxims and AT's "facing the wrong direction" they werent, I just leave them like that so it can get positioned properly, especially the maxim that have awful arc of fire and gets flanked all the time, this way you can face it properly or retreat if caught by surprise.

Any other mistakes was because I was too pressed on dodging those damn ISG, infantry can't stop for more than one second or they will get hammered.

also, in the current state of the game, you can't be aggressive as allies or you will totally lose map control and bleed too much manpower.


Ah totally understandable then. I must admit with the smokes I think I must of been focusing a bit to hard on other aspects of the game, and I will gladly admit to anyone to take my commentaries of the Soviets with a grain of salt. I'm not particularly strong with them and most games seem to be Brits and USF recently. I had no idea incideary got nerfed, I would think with how fire works now it would be very strong but hey, learn something new.

Solid point about the KV-8 I guess I'm probably bluring the lines with a crocodile too much.

Never really thought about the Katy that way, I've always seen it as an RnG unit but for harrasment it may not be terrible. I Will have to practice my soviet game some more I reckon.
28 Oct 2015, 13:24 PM
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Ah totally understandable then. I must admit with the smokes I think I must of been focusing a bit to hard on other aspects of the game, and I will gladly admit to anyone to take my commentaries of the Soviets with a grain of salt. I'm not particularly strong with them and most games seem to be Brits and USF recently. I had no idea incideary got nerfed, I would think with how fire works now it would be very strong but hey, learn something new.

Solid point about the KV-8 I guess I'm probably bluring the lines with a crocodile too much.

Never really thought about the Katy that way, I've always seen it as an RnG unit but for harrasment it may not be terrible. I Will have to practice my soviet game some more I reckon.

Think of the kv8 as a giant T70 rather than a front-line breakthrough unit, use it to harass team weapons on flanks and cut off retreats rather than a moving into pak walls like you would a croc
28 Oct 2015, 14:32 PM
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The creeping barrage from katyushas are awesome now, if timed right can do some serious damage. It even got nerfed (for no reason, since nobody was complaining) a few patches ago.
28 Oct 2015, 22:17 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post28 Oct 2015, 13:24 PMbert69

Think of the kv8 as a giant T70 rather than a front-line breakthrough unit, use it to harass team weapons on flanks and cut off retreats rather than a moving into pak walls like you would a croc


Ah alight, I'll keep that in mind. I always thought it was a heavily armoured Infantry support tank like it was around release. Seems that relic felt it needed to be made into a harassment unit.
29 Oct 2015, 15:09 PM
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Ah alight, I'll keep that in mind. I always thought it was a heavily armoured Infantry support tank like it was around release. Seems that relic felt it needed to be made into a harassment unit.

Yup! It looks big and like it can take alot of hits, but in actual fact has almost the same hp as t34-85, around 800 if im not wrong, so that's only like 5 or so pak shots and not to mention its slow as shit, so if you don't flank with it, its basically dead with gren faust.
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