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excellent =/= not total garbage.

Assault Guards would see more use if they were in a better doctrine, but as of now they are lack luster which doesn't help lend lease at all.

I guess you missed that part:

Conscripts do exist late game, having an AT snare around is always extremely helpful, as is the ability to crew and reinforce weapon teams on the fly.

I agree that Cons need a better late game help instead of the PPsH but Shocks and Assault Guards are excellent.

But since you thought they have 6 ppsh, your next opinion (excellent into not total garbage) is understandable.

And Assault Guards would not be more useful in any doctrine. They are weak and they have no purpose.

Yet still, if I may ask you, check things before. It will save X post proving someone is wrong and unnecessary flame

Wait till evening (GMT)and I will gladly watch it

I will just add my 2 cents about cost when compare to Tiger call in.
I'm talking from 2v2 perspective since in 1v1 OST T4 does not exist.

Of course you can save fuel, flot with fuel around 400 at 25min, call in Tiger, wait 5mins for MP and call second one but what between 0-25min? Only infantry and paks? Of cours it's doable but it's not that easy. It's always good to have Pz4 around.

But to the point... Just yesterday, I was playing 2v2 as Ostheer, and I was able to get Panther at 15:43. Excalty at this moment it hit the field which was very helpful agasint AA HT and Shermans.

So here is something to think about.
You can save fuel to get 2 Tigers around 30min but you can use that fuel to get powerful tank much earlier so you can make hard push, take enemy's fuel, whatever.

Every single stock unit which comes eariler than call-in equivalent should cost more, because you are paying for the time you just bought.

You can't simply compare costs of Tiger and Panther. You need to look from bigger perspective.
When it can hit the field?
What it can provide me?
Is it better to wait for IS2 and rely on T2 or maybe it's better to make T70, T34 and then IS2?
You will "lose" 1 IS2 for teching and getting T70 and T34 but on the other hand, you will get amazing units to push and in fact, many times it's better to get T70+T34 instead of waiting for IS2. Same with Panther and Tiger. Sometimes it's better to pay for time, in this case around 10min, to get powerful unit much earlier.
And on...
And on...


By the way, Panther itself is fine.

Ahhh people have found the next OKW unit to be OP...interesting.

Let me get this straight - I will bring up all "OP"-claims I have read in approximately 3 months.

Stumrpioniere: OP because massive DPS (only viable in early)
Volksgrenadiere: Op because Panzerschreck (still worst basic infantry weak weak early and if wiped in late game replacement is a more hitting blow)
Kubel: Op because so fast and not counterable.(and melts in the face if a 2+ rifles with bars)
Flak-HT: OP because suppresses (Assloader US HT anyone?)
Puma: OP because outranges everyone(I am sorry wat? If not babysitted all the time its dead in seconds.. About range lets have a talk about a 240dmg alpha jackson....)
Stuka: OP because creeping barrage(its expensive and literally a hit and miss unit)
Luchs: OP because rushed its so OP(1 AT gun shuts it down in the perimeter)
Obers: Op because sniping hmgs(a bit strong I agree - yet the only MP choice for OKW to get rid of maxim spam)
Panther: OP because its so fast(expensive)
King Tiger: OP because unkillable(retardly expensive and ask a wehr player without ferdi how he feels about IS2)

and now Command Panther? lol

So to sum this up players think only Puppchen, JpZ4 leig 18 and IR HT are fine.
basically these are 4 shit units (JPZ4 is good on paper but ingame its often lackluster and against 2 tanks its dead for a whopping 135f rarely viable)
I dont trust much in relic but whoa, I am glad they are in charge instead of the playerbase. smh

1. SP are easy to handle with 2 Cons but combine them with Kubel and Truck and you have 0:00 PzGrens.
2. Vet 5 Volks have similar survability to vet 3 Shocks. I guess Shocks should be most durable infantry.
3. You dont have 2 Rifles with BARs at 1min
4. Flak OP? And by the way, US AA won't wipe full squad in 1 burst.
5. Puma OP? that's new.
6. Stuka OP? Currently it's the best mobile arty, that's all.
7. 1 AT gun is enough Stuart or T70 but not for Luchs with its 400hp.
8. Someone still uses maxim spam?
9. Panther OP?
10. King Tiger OP?

And I really like your signature cause it shows your lack of knowledge about game mechanic or that you were not familiar with that thread
But no worries, I will explain You
Of course, when you catch Obers around the corner it's obvious, but it's not what it was about.
It's about getting close to Obers. While doing this with Shocks, you will lose 2-3 models and 25-50%hp - it's just RNG. If you lose 2 models you will get them. If you lose 3 models, Obers will melt you.
Smoke nade is not an option in fact, cause your squad needs to stand still while throwing grenade which means additional 2secs for Obers to shoot at you, and even then, Obers will just move back so in the end you will push them out of cover but in fact you are not any meter closer to them.

Such a game.

Counter attack + infantry vs Breakthrough and Spec Ops.

Amazing, very close game with VPs.

Jadgtiger, King Tiger, many Panthers vs Jacksons, Shermans, SU85 and KV1.


Obers with STGs melting everything, B4 crushing everything in range.

Just amazing game. Hope you will enjoy!