More of the industry weighs in on revenue splits:
More half-truths from Epic CEO.

Thread: Steam vs Epic games3 Jul 2019, 03:40 AM
Epic CEO Defends ‘Ends Justify The Means’ Exclusive Stance, Leaves Out KEY Information: More of the industry weighs in on revenue splits: More half-truths from Epic CEO. ![]() In: Other Games |
Thread: Steam vs Epic games3 Jul 2019, 03:28 AM
Shenmue 3 To Offer Refunds After Disgruntled Backers Protest Epic Exclusivity: sources: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ysnet/shenmue-3/posts/2553891 https://twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/1142815181413781510 https://twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/1146103878540308481 Epic's Tim Sweeney also made it clear that this is their new policy moving forward, meaning that Kickstarted games are by no means off limits: Shenmue 3 backers won't get Steam keys at launch, but refunds will be available: The Epic Games Store exclusivity means no Steam keys for a year. https://www.pcgamer.com/shenmue-3-backers-wont-get-steam-keys-at-launch-but-refunds-will-be-available/?utm_content=buffer53246&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=buffer-pcgamertw Epic funding Kickstarter refunds resulting from Shenmue 3’s move to the Epic Games store, says it'll do likewise when future crowdfunded games switch to Epic Games store exclusives: https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/epic-games-funding-shenmue-3-pc-kickstarter-refunds/ https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/c8cora/epic_funding_kickstarter_refunds_resulting_from/ Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/c88dvi/shenmue_3_offers_refunds_and_delayed_steam_keys/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/c8814r/shenmue_3_update_on_pc_version_rewards/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Shenmue/comments/c880oc/shenmue_3_by_ys_net_update_on_pc_version_rewards/ https://www.reddit.com/r/fuckepic/comments/c8825x/shenmue_3_will_be_offering_refunds/ ![]() EDIT: Updated info In: Other Games |
Thread: Cyberpunk 207727 Jun 2019, 04:44 AM
Journalist: TL;DR: Hilarious short clip from Yongyea YouTuber sums it up: Yongyea losing faith in gaming journalism? ![]() To be clear game journos are not all unhinged but they are grasping at straws with Cyberpunk 2077. I understand why The Quartering is a controversial YouTuber/gaming critic but attacking Yongyea makes no logic. Gamergate’s Latest Targets Are Cyberpunk 2077’s Critics: https://medium.com/@TheRealAKhaled/cyberpunk-2077-transphobia-poster-mike-pondsmith-gamergate-92fa6e3a922d ![]() Sure enough, when typed into YouTube’s search box, “cyberpunk 2077” brings up just in its first page two notable gaming provocateurs — Cleanprincegaming, and YongYea.A few days later he double down on the YouTuber's hitpiece: https://medium.com/swlh/gamergate-game-journalism-youtube-zoe-quinn-anita-sarkeesian-cleanprincegaming-yongyea-thequartering-901e63c05a3b I accidently helped a reporter create a youtuber hit piece article. In this article he talked about 'angry gamers' and I let him interview me about it. I had no clue it was going to be a hit piece against youtubers and I had no clue it was going to result in people losing their sponsors. Here's my story. These are the type of blogger activists that are hired and/or paid to write news articles for gaming news sites. Desperate for clicks or enjoying the smell of your own farts/intellectual smugness? What is worse Google+MSM bias is supporting a fake narrative that make gamers and YouTubers look bad. Some of us saw this censorship/demonization coming from a mile away but now we got clear evidence to prove Google bias. Within a short period of time Youtube/Google has practically merged with MSM content and that has serious implications especially for Youtube content creators. Long story short, Youtube/Google is digging their own grave and facing new criminal charges/antitrust investigation (both US and EU) + public scrutiny. Is there a silver lining? Yes, but first we got an internet war to win: ![]() Quoted for Truth: Gabe Newell's advice in 2013 still rings true: 'Nobody is smarter than the internet' https://www.businessinsider.com/valve-ceo-gabe-newells-advice-to-businesses-still-rings-true-today-2017-11?r=US&IR=T MSM can't handle competition from independent creators and media. Also tried to remove the biggest gamer on Youtube, Pewdiepie but that failed: https://www.tubefilter.com/2017/02/16/pewdiepie-wall-street-journal-response/ That does not mean Pewdiepie is safe from Google/MSM censorship as this big investigation suggest: YouTube’s Trending section puts creators at a huge disadvantage over big brands 22, Study collected data on more than 40,000 videos https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/29/18642833/youtube-trending-coffee-break-pewdiepie-late-night-sports-highlights In: Other Games |
Thread: Cyberpunk 207720 Jun 2019, 05:19 AM
Need to know. This is gaming journalism - 2019: And they are failing hard financially: Gizmodo Media Group (owners of Kotaku gaming news) have a 20 million dollar operating loss: https://gbatemp.net/threads/the-2019-gizmodo-owners-of-kotaku-sale-troubled-media-collection-sold-again.535563/ Gizmodo Media Group’s sites generated more than $80 million in revenue in 2017, Mullin reported at the Journal, but lost $20 million. Spanfeller, also an investor in G/O Media Inc., thinks he can turn that around:https://www.niemanlab.org/2019/04/gizmodo-media-group-is-sold-to-a-private-equity-firm-and-univision-is-out-of-the-english-language-website-business/ My advice? Stop hiring a bunch of blogger activists that have questionable loyalty to the corporation and readers/gamers. Many of these so called 'journos' are not even gamers. This is proof: In: Other Games |
Thread: Steam vs Epic games19 Jun 2019, 04:20 AM
With new Gearbox Software documents revealed we have proof of Randy Pitchford's $12 million recoupable bonus. Whatever or not this 'bonus' is legal will be decided in the coming trial. A jury trial is currently set for January 7, 2020. TL;DR: “If the royalty were just owed to Gearbox on the whole and then Randy diverted it, it would look very much like stealing,” Hoeg told GameDaily via email. KazumaID from Reddit, breakdown of the situation: KazumaID Former Gearbox employee provides proof Randy Pitchford diverted funds to personal company: https://gamedaily.biz/article/965/former-gearbox-employee-provides-proof-randy-pitchford-diverted-funds-to-personal-company Mike Futter, June 18, 2019 New documents in the suit filed by Wade Callender, former Gearbox corporate counsel, against Randy Pitchford back up a claim that Pitchford diverted studio money to a personal company.Reddit: Hands0ffmybr3adhttps://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/c2avby/former_gearbox_employee_provides_proof_randy/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/c2au0y/former_gearbox_employee_provides_proof_randy/* ![]() In: Other Games |
Thread: E3 : So relic don't have something to announce?17 Jun 2019, 15:04 PM
Some AoE4 news - repost: https://www.coh2.org/topic/62922/relic-working-on-age-of-empires-4/page/6#post_id751836 AoE II DE will use technologies from AoE IV https://www.reddit.com/r/aoe2/comments/c13d9l/pc_world_article_hints_at_net_code_improvements/ https://www.pcworld.com/article/3402536/age-of-empires-ii-definitive-edition-preview.html "improved networking back-end that's being taken directly from Relic's work on Age of Empires IV and integrated into Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition." English summary of a German preview article on AoE2 DE containing both new and old info: https://www.reddit.com/r/aoe2/comments/c0q7e7/english_summary_of_a_german_preview_article_on/ using technology from AoE4, for example "Relic Link" (anti-cheat-tool, allows player profiles, similar to Battle.net) AoE2 Multiplayer in the Definitive Edition (using Relic technology) *SNIP* In: Lobby |
Thread: Relic working on Age of Empires 417 Jun 2019, 14:23 PM
Forgotten Empires working on Age II DE has members of Ex-ensemble studios https://it.ign.com/age-of-empires-ii-definitive-edition-pc/156073/interview/lambizione-di-age-of-empires-ii-definitive-edition-intervista How was the project born? How do you live the responsibility of being the studio responsible for such an important series for the world of video games? source:Adam Isgreen There's a bit of confusion in here --https://www.resetera.com/threads/microsoft-announced-the-formation-of-an-age-of-empires-studio-headed-by-shannon-loftis.122030/page-3#post-21936432 Official name & logo for new AoE studio - TBA Age of Empires studio (official name hasn't cleared legal yet) | USA | founded in 2019source:Roman Bellic & Adam Isgreen https://www.resetera.com/threads/microsoft-announced-the-formation-of-an-age-of-empires-studio-headed-by-shannon-loftis.122030/page-2 cartoon_soldier said: https://www.resetera.com/threads/xbox-game-studios-ot5-the-cult-of-phil-in-the-age-of-booty-a-case-study.116768/page-254#post-21910252 EDIT: Updated Info In: Other Games |
Thread: Relic working on Age of Empires 417 Jun 2019, 14:07 PM
AoE II DE will use technologies from AoE IV https://www.reddit.com/r/aoe2/comments/c13d9l/pc_world_article_hints_at_net_code_improvements/ https://www.pcworld.com/article/3402536/age-of-empires-ii-definitive-edition-preview.html "improved networking back-end that's being taken directly from Relic's work on Age of Empires IV and integrated into Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition." English summary of a German preview article on AoE2 DE containing both new and old info: https://www.reddit.com/r/aoe2/comments/c0q7e7/english_summary_of_a_german_preview_article_on/ using technology from AoE4, for example "Relic Link" (anti-cheat-tool, allows player profiles, similar to Battle.net) AoE2 Multiplayer in the Definitive Edition (using Relic technology) *SNIP* In: Other Games |
Thread: Relic working on Age of Empires 417 Jun 2019, 13:38 PM
Last week E3 10/6-19 the AoE team launched a brand new website: https://www.ageofempires.com/ Old website: https://web.archive.org/web/20190609185409/https://www.ageofempires.com/ AoE2 DE Gameplay Footage: Upcoming AoE News https://www.reddit.com/r/aoe4/comments/c0ipx4/an_interesting_tidbit_an_an_email/ Posted by u/Tattorack In: Other Games |
Thread: Steam vs Epic games17 Jun 2019, 11:53 AM
Shenmue 3 kickstarter controversy is potential investor fraud which undermines future crowdfunding investments. Kickstarter backers are essentially investors that have a certain admission of risk. Even with the best of intentions, Kickstarter projects can fail and investors get nothing. Edit: Someone apparently did some number crunching and came to the conclusion that steam makes around 8% profit on games in total and that the 12% cut is not possible to realise considering the additional services steam offers. Epic's statement is seen as a clever PR move since they will likely have done some similar calculations and know that steam simply cannot do the 12-88 split. Updates from this source: Mortiel have been great debunking Epic CEO misleading half-truths which can be more manipulative than outright lies. Epic propaganda works by repetition and Valve so far have not done much to counter this. Mortiel Countering EGS Propaganda here: https://threadreaderapp.com/user/Mortiel New propaganda this week: Epic CEO insinuate third-party PC exclusives is ‘fair competition’ similar to 1st party exclusives. Encourages Valve to do the same as Epic. https://twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/1140306161935245312 Tim Sweeney In: Other Games |
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