Profile of sluzbenik

Well the 4v4 maps are terrible really, just uninteresting. City 17 looks nice but it's just a support weapons fest until tanks come out. Montargis really was the best 4v4 map and I'd like to see it back...But what made it fun to play was the multiple fuel and ammo points which meant that for brief periods both teams might hold them, particularly one of the high ammos.

Perhaps what they should do with the 4v4 maps is actually remove ALL the fuel and ammo points so it becomes more a matter of defending OPs and tactics, instead of the current Ostheer-favored configuration. MGs lock down those fuels too easily, so my default response when playing 4v4s is sniper spam, which is a bit vulnerable to the proper counters unless I have helpful teammates.

Here is what is apparently optimal Ostheer positioning on Kharkov to prevent early cut-off. What should the Soviet positioning be? Once you lose the initial engagement on this map it's over.

Anyone got replays of repelling conspam on Kharkov? the early game is really, really hard.

I think the issue is, as I've said before, is that Soviets are more micro-intensive, and need to use their abilities more. For instance, as Soviet you need to basically be constantly throwing Molotovs (and making snap judgements about where to actually toss - where the enemy squad is or where you think he'd move he's sees the throw) tossing AT nades, dodging, garrisoning/degarrisoning buildings, constant flanking. If trying to flank Ostheer tanks with T-34s, barraging with AT guns. If you want to ram something, you have to do a surprising amount of micro to get in range, get a running start, and hit from the back since the range was nerfed.

Contrast that to Ostheer. You could use rifle nades, but you don't have to. LMGs and Pgrens are arguably much better anti-infantry solutions, as you can't dodge them, and don't have to select-squad/click-ability/aim ability to fight well. At lower skill levels, this lowers the amount of squad micro dramatically. If your tank gets in trouble, you can reverse out, or pop smoke - no real need to flank and constantly micro tanks. Unless facing an IS-2 or ISU, you'll win with frontal facing most of the time and flanking SU-85s really isn't that hard if you know basic geometry. One of the only times Ostheer players are forced to have really quick reactions is getting fausts off and the former dominance of the M3 rush has trained even low level players to do this well.

So I disagree with the argument that balance trickles down. If one faction requires a great deal more micro then the appearance of balance among the top 10% is extremely deceiving, as those players have vastly superior micro and multitasking skills.

Wackiest, funniest game I've played lately.

It's all fun and games going straight to T2 until the KV-8 comes out...then the Brummbar.

My HQ goes down. I didn't know your dudes would all retreat OFF THE MAP if the HQ is down.