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This thread was created at the insistence of user 'Daathus"
Volksgrenadiers are very lackluster and die quickly for core infantry.. Sturmpioneers lost a lot of their capability when they basically got a range nerf. Fallschirmjaeger are just waaay too flimsy for the price you pay for a 4-man squad that clumps
If Volksgrenadiers are to be a "meat shield" to draw attention for superior closer range squads, they need to be more durable.
Volksgrens die quickly with or without vet, priests, ISU-152's Shocks, Rifles etc instagibbing them as soon as they come into view doesn't help.
Jaeger Lights are okay, but the doctrine they are part of kind of sucks, Ostwind is expensive and only good for a short time, comes in way too late. Everything on the Special Forces doctrine comes in way too late. LeIG for OKW sucks, right out.
The entire Elite Armored doctrine sucks, and the Panzer IV Ausf. J's are never worth getting, despite that they come obscenely late to make a difference.
German MG's cannot suppress anything it seems and often don't fire until Allied units make it halfway through the long part of their firing arc!
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Yeah, it sucks that there is a unit that can one-shot light vehicles while firing through walls, while also having the best frontal armor, the ability to move itself, and range.
No, wait....
There are plenty of imba units in the game, but I would suggest playing the beta changes themselves and not throwing out some biased and not very-well founded statements.
As a player who plays all the armies, and prefers OKW, I find that the ISU is actually not that hard to kill, especially with blitz and smoke. If you want the units you describe as so powerful, go ahead and play soviets! I am sure you will love the faction design!
On topic though, I find the new ISU to be fun, it eats up micro sure, but it really feels like a fun mini-game to micro it. The dopamine releases are great!
Light vehicles have paper for armor, that's what is implied in LIGHT ARMOR!
Nothing the Germans have even really comes close to instantly wiping infantry squads! (save for the Stuka zu Fuss, and that's only if you managed to hit the same squad with 2x or 3x rockets from the barrage!)
I can't comment on the Beta since I haven't played it, but I am playing live, have been for a very long time, and it's just SHIT!. |
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No such thing as overnerfed with that god damned overpowered monstrosity. I'll be happy if it can only shoot soap-bubbles at troops.
There is no amount of nerfed into the ground for that fucking thing that wouldn't be justified. |
Thread: #Ribbed22 Oct 2014, 23:41 PM
#Ribbed, maybe gonna shoutcaast live
I'm not gonna lie, I didn't play as well as I probably could have, but it's my second go at Americans vs dudes who have tons of experience as both factions, so it's to be expected I guess.
That said I'm still proud of almost taking out a Panther with a Stuart and a Captain squad. |
Got home from work now, already happpened? Where is the glorious replay, I want to shoutcast it
Yeah we lost.
Romeo though it would be funny to go full on rifleblob/spam mode with the thought that my major complaint was Rifleblobs = OP. Guess there was a misunderstanding there.
Also Siberian was on the other team, wasn't sure which one he was, think he was Ostheer.
Was a funny game though for my second game as Americans. We didn't do horribly. I even managed to get top damage output throughout the game despite my horrible kills/Deaths ratio. |
Sierra i friended you on steam let's pwn these nubz
Well played out there Romeo and CieZ, definitely knew what I was getting into with Siberian though.
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I stand by my original stance though, Germans are absolutely not OP. Hell I almost took out that Panther with a Stuart. |
I feel it uh, hasn't. Way too slow to be of any effect on a noticeable axis player but I have seen it do good and bad range of damage. I am annoying how I can throw one at a MG in a building and if he sits there for a bit then hops out he will be ok, then again I have seen it kill two units of a squad before they can react so...
Thoughts? I hope relic sees this.
I've seen molotovs kill off 3/4 of a squad and even one-shot entire Panzergren squads on impact. It's RNG but it's also pretty devastating when used right. |
You're trying to prove US is OP by beating complete noobs on your first game as US, in 4v4. I was being sarcastic, because it is hard to take such a claim seriously.
No no no not at all good Sir.
I was trying to prove that they are clearly NOT underpowered and perfectly capable of fighting the "OP" Germans.
If anything I was trying to show Germany isn't this godlike entity that's unbeatable like so many claim. |
One game? This changes everything.
The Editor in Chief trolling a thread? Such high class, much honor.  |
I mean, to be fair - double Soviet is the strongest 2v2 combination for sure. But to make such sweeping claims as Sierra has made, they must be... tested... 
"Sweeping claims" I'm just saying any asshat with relative ability can play Allies decently and provide great headache or even win a game.
Also I don't have the Open Beta installed. |
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