God forbid Americans have to build something other than rifles to counter a Wehr sniper. m20 counters it fine, nothing better than a combined m20+Rifle/lieut push ending the game in the first 5 minutes.
Still struggle against a good player that keeps it alive into late game? Welcome to CoH2, Axis have been struggling against Guards+Sniper cheese for the last two years
How so? Please explain the thought process on that one. Shocks only do their dps at spitting range, if you retreat you are guaranteed to get away. It's not like they don't have a high MP cost too.
Survivability in squad size, with Shocks and Paras you can have confidence in the fact you will not lose 400MP+muni to a random Scott/Mortar round because of clumping.
On paper it looks like they're over nerfed when you consider what Allies get with Shocks/Paras respectively for the cost. My guess is they will be about as effective as Panzer grens are for Ost, they'll do decent damage but are just not cost effective.
We will see in a day or so when the patch goes live I guess.
People will just not bother to buy Obers anymore, Panzerfusilier spam will become the new meta. Also it seems stupid to Nerf the KT and keep heavy call ins exactly the same.
Jacksons will still completely wreck Panzer 4's and Ost T3 in general with 200 damage, only this time they can wreck tigers and four shot panthers thanks to the pen buff. 222 will still not stand a chance against m20 while they have a free bazooka, 40 extra health is nothing.
B-4 nerf that drastic was uneeded, other howitzers should've been brought up to its level if relics goal is to "discourage blobbing".