Allied Medium Tanks Overperforming/too spammable?
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Range and pen ,and tehse words like sniper tank are just excuses of allied fanboys to keep panther extinct.I will use a pak and stug as sniper for its DPS thank you.Anything less than an is-2 can handle easy and more reliably.And for is-2 it comes late enough for tiger and not many use it.
Fix panther accuracy,nerf range to 40 coz its useless,and pentration lowered to 200-220 and price 155 fuel.
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Exactly panther can only be used in kiting role in defense.Its a useless tank hunter to anything over vanilla t-34 and shermans,needs spotter mostly superficial range and penetration,worst DPS,shit accuracy especially on the move and has to flee from the first at gun or bazooka.
Range and pen ,and tehse words like sniper tank are just excuses of allied fanboys to keep panther extinct.I will use a pak and stug as sniper for its DPS thank you.Anything less than an is-2 can handle easy and more reliably.And for is-2 it comes late enough for tiger and not many use it.
Fix panther accuracy,nerf range to 40 coz its useless,and pentration lowered to 200-220 and price 155 fuel.
Oh ffs this is so much bull I can barely imagine what goes through your head.
The difference is that StuG have no health or turret or armour, AT guns are slow as balls and can be infantry wiped, and 50 range is only useless if you're criminally incompetent
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Oh ffs this is so much bull I can barely imagine what goes through your head.
The difference is that StuG have no health or turret or armour, AT guns are slow as balls and can be infantry wiped, and 50 range is only useless if you're criminally incompetent
Oh plz,just see thats actually what bulk of ost players do.Stugs and paks combo or pz 4 paks into tiger.Not the glorified meatshield that is the panther that can't kill shit due to its DPS.Cover stgs or p4 with paks and far better results.Why pay 175 fuel and tech costs for defence only shit tank that also useless vs infantry?
No 50 range is useless when u need a spotter making it useless offensively,when ur accuracy is the butt of jokes and when ur competitors are fast enough to make it irrelevant by closing unless ur fighting on a closed lane or defensively,for which again i'll just get the pak with support.
So keep ur bull to urself.Guys like u float out these worthless attributes range and pen to keep this unit extinct while OP costeffective E8 and t-34/85 are perfectly fine.Nerfing both its range and penetartion would change very little to the actual battlefield effectiveness of panther..just take away these xcuses plz.Its a glorified meatshield ,and mobile defensive cannon thats all.Nothing more.
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That being said I much rather prefer to build two Paks or two StuGs for defensive duties.
The Panther is a shit tank, that can´t attack. Nerf its range to 40 and give it useful stats.
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I do like the idea of having to at least tech up to gain access to units. ie t-34 requires t4 sov building. tiger needs t4 germans researched. double p4 should be second truck after conversion to building.
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I still think Tech cost tied to call in's and some kind of buff to Panther would fix almost every issue with tanks/late game. I'm liking the look of range to 40 and buff it's long range/moving accuracy. Means we still need to use it properly with it's frontal armour, but if it get's chased or is chasing something it won't be totally useless.
Yes Axis Heavies may have the best "stats" but that doesn't really mean anything when it is 1 vs 3/4 other tanks, even with AT support.
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Panthers are also fucking awesome, don't know what you people are talking about.
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The E8 is not even slightly overperforming. It isn't spammable, it doesn't do too much damage, it doesn't have too much armour or health, and it doesn't have too much penetration. For what it is, a mid game tank that gets countered by the next tank up, it's a perfectly fine tank.
Panthers are also fucking awesome, don't know what you people are talking about.
i wished i played that game it sounds fun. you must be vs ai?
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It's called Company of Heroes 2, you can buy it on Steam.
The coh 2 stats say your wrong. and thats about as much effort i want use on your biased non sense.
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The coh 2 stats say your wrong. and thats about as much effort i want use on your biased non sense.
What magical stats are these?
Probably the same stats that tell you a Panther shits on just about any other tank in the game except for the best superheavies.
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What magical stats are these?
Probably the same stats that tell you a Panther shits on just about any other tank in the game except for the best superheavies.
Yeah thats is its task because it completely lacks any form of decent AI safe for its mg upgrade. its their to fuck up tanks if it struggles against medium tanks i might just as well buy a puma.
its only good as a meat shield and i rather have a KT for that.
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There's no reason why the Ostheer Panther should have significantly worse stats even at vet0 than the OKW Panther, and the unit could use those stat buffs rather than the OKW version getting nerfed down to the Ostheer level.
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