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2020/21 Balance update suggestions

26 Nov 2020, 20:45 PM
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Suggestions for the latest Balance Update patch

Soviets

Guards rework:

Guards now start with 6 mosin nagant Rifles but have access to two mutually exclusive upgrades

Dp-28 package (100 munitions) Guards squad gains 3 Dp-28 LMGS

TankHunter Package (100 munitions) Guards squad gains 2 "captured" Panzerschreck

Ostheer

G43 upgrade rework:

G43s for Grenadiers
squad size increased from 4 to 5
squad gains 2 g43 rifles
upgrade cost increased from 45 to 60

G43s for Panzer Grenadiers
squad size increased from 4 to 5
squad gains 3 g43s rifles
upgrade cost increased from 60 to 80

G43s for Stormtroopers
squad size increased from 4 to 5
squad gains 3 g43s rifles
upgrade cost increased from 60 to 80

Ostheer panzer 4

Now has access to new "armored skirts" upgrade (50 munitions)
the upgrade increases the P4 armor by 30%
requires Battle phase 3
Vet2 30% more armor replaced with -20% scatter.

OKW

Strumpioneer

new upgrade "Camouflage" (25 munitions) squad becomes cloaked in cover
requires 1 deployed truck
mutually exclusive with Panzerschreck

Panzerfusilier

Panzerschreck upgrade removed
Panzerfusilier now have access to 2 mutually exclusive upgrades Anti infantry upgrades:

G43 package (unchanged)

LMG42 upgrade: squad gains LMG42 (60 munitions) but squad size remains 5

Obersoldaten

new Panzerschreck package(100 munitions) obers squad gains 2 Panzerschrecks
Has the same requirements as LMG34 and IR STG44
mutually exclusive with the LMG34 and IR STG44

I don't really play USF and UKF enough to give suggestions on those two factions, but feel free to add your own suggestions and feedback.





26 Nov 2020, 21:58 PM
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Posts: 449

Panzerfusiliers are fine. Why change them? They provide some nice anti-tank options that OKW doesn't have and they're doctrinal. I don't like removing the panzershrecks and giving them to Obers, since Obers come out too late and the panzershrecks are quite useful in the early-mid game.
26 Nov 2020, 22:49 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post26 Nov 2020, 21:58 PMSpoof
Panzerfusiliers are fine. Why change them? They provide some nice anti-tank options that OKW doesn't have and they're doctrinal. I don't like removing the panzershrecks and giving them to Obers, since Obers come out too late and the panzershrecks are quite useful in the early-mid game.


because its too easy for people to make cheap Panzerschreck blobs that easily delete any allied armor

What if Obers were changed to be available from the command HQ?

they would require 1 deployed truck and LMG34 and IR stg are were locked behind Schwerer Panzer HQ but Panzerschrecks were available for them immediately like Pgrens. would that be a fair compromise
26 Nov 2020, 23:13 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post26 Nov 2020, 22:49 PMKT610


because its too easy for people to make cheap Panzerschreck blobs that easily delete any allied armor

What if Obers were changed to be available from the command HQ?

they would require 1 deployed truck and LMG34 and IR stg are were locked behind Schwerer Panzer HQ but Panzerschrecks were available for them immediately like Pgrens. would that be a fair compromise

Must I remind you it is doctrinal? As long as it is doctrinal, then shreck blobbing is not a problem. Also this same shreck blob has zero AI capability. This isn't the same as old Volks shreck blobs since Volks have better Kar98s than Fusiliers and they only had 1 shreck. Fusiliers have to keep their shreck as an early-mid infantry anti-armor counter.

Also, having 2 anti-infantry upgrades is redundant.
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