Profile of GachiGasm

If the main criterium is "has this equipment been used in WW2?", you're not aiming at authenticity either.

This is just pure nitpicking if you ask me. We can as well say, why "War Machine" existed in vCoH, because it also does look kinda fictional. I will repeat myself again, lets just sum up what kind of fiction was allowed for CoH across both games:

1) Misrepresentation of units
2) Some fictional abilities on units
3) Rare or super rare used equipment representation
4) Believable abilities made to fit gameplay
5) Fictional, but belivable, ammunition on a small scale (grenades mostly)
6) Pure gameplay abilities which-in the scope of represented factions (vCoH USA "War Machine")
7) Wrong time periods
8) Wrong availability of rare equipment

Where would you put Black Prince? It wasn't finished, it wasn't used, it wasn't put into a production. Literally 6 were made and all 6 were prototypes. Besides the fact that BP looks like a ww2 tank, it doesn't fit into any category CoH previously allowed itself to mess with.

At this point, it would be fine to use a normal Churchill (hek, even a Sherman) and just slap Black Prince stats on top of it so it can defeat a Panther. I am sure most people would not be fine with that.

And it would have been perfectly fine with-in the scope of how CoH gameplay mechanics works. Aside from balance\faction reasoning and some commons sense, kubelwagen could be made into a TD, with an ability to fire its MG into some tank weakspot or something

V1s didn't participate in tactical combat, Bergetigers didn't recover complete wreck vehicles, The Luftwaffe didn't participate much after Boddenpatte and they are present in the franchise doing so. I think its fairly clear that Relic tailors fiction to suit a narrative, and I'm fine with the Black prince, its not very out of this world and especially not in Relics franchise context.

V1 - wrong representation of usage, yet the thing is authentical
Bergitiger - authentical usage (engi vehicle) put into a gameplay mechanic
Luft - wrong time period, yet authentical representation.

Black Prince on the other neither authentical nor wrongly represented nor using wrong time period. If we count game to be set in WW2, Black Prince is simply out of scope of this time period. Adding it to the game is pure fiction, without any redeeming justification for it to exist.

On a side note, the only examples of pure BP level fiction in both CoH games, would probably be things like flame\stun grenades and KCH from vCoH.

I mean if they've been balancing the unit to be an allied heavy to counter the Tigers presence, I wouldn't want them to remove it and create balance issues.

And thats the point, there are churchills with the same gun as BP which were actually used. And no-one against UKF having them with the same stats which are planned fro BP. Its the not performance\role of BP what is a problem, its the vehicle itself.

I just dont get it, what with this desire to put this unit box everywhere but not in the place where it should be.

Why should be near the mini map and not on the right side where you literary have an empty space which is not used.

There was like dozens of concepts made by the community which looks x10 times better then this.

Both replies are similar in the idea.

Again, I'm not the guy who runs for "realism", CoH is arcade game when we discuss the realism. I have nothing against BP as a unit, because its technically speaking is nothing special.

I will repeat myself, we are dealing with Relic in a first place. Meaning that by adding BP into the game, later they can add anything they want. Sure, not a big dead, maybe.

Balance could be easily be messed up, even with "realistic" units, this is also true. But again, as OrangePest said there is really nothing what couldn't be filled with realistic units anyway.

And that's the whole point. Ok, lets say we want UKF to finally have some sort of fat tank with a big gun, you could easily use Challenger for this role. As stated game is not realistic, so this unit could be used as a sort of a heavy tank, with buffed HP\armor and why not.

Its not saying that BP is the problem, because literally it can be balanced to have performance of a sherman and sherman might be balanced to be as strong as KT and with-in arcade CoH game-play it still would make sense.

I'am complaining about the fact that this is literally the first time Relic decided to add completely fictional unit into the game.

Not the one which was used\build in super low numbers, not the ones which were used on different fronts, not the ones which don't make sense year vise. This alone just allow them to add other fictional stuff into the game, which in a long run might just add problems.

Over-all its all sounds like a conspiracy, but my main point is - they are intentionally adding this unit into the game, to later on allow themself add more of them later on to be soled as DLC. We are joking about Mouse, but imagine how many people would buy it if it comes as DLC. Time will show offcourse, but I strongly believe, that nothing good will come from this.

I mean, do you really believe, they are adding it only because its cool. They are literally changing ship models in a campaign because "its the model of a wrong year shit" or responding to people saying "gurkhas voice is wrong" promising to change it. But when it comes to whole BP situation they are using excuse of a game "trying to look realistic, but not to be".

On top of that, but this is a stretch, Axis dont even have KT\Ele\JT in the game. Judging by the file digs, they only have Tiger\Panther and both of them are locked behind commanders anyway, so there is no reason even from a balance perspective (which we dont know anything about yet) for such heavy tank to be in the game. It would have made more sense if it was in CoH2 at this point.

And if, Allies for some reason which we don't know yet, need KT equivalent tank in CoH3, why not just give them super pershing.

Actually it would be strange if Relic didn't try to let everyone know that the game has this feature.

Its aimed at the average Joe, who dont even play RTS. What are the titles average gamer would know. Starcraft, warcraft, maybe CnC, AoE. All of them are not only old fashioned RTS games, but also very micro intensive ones.

Average player who dont even play RTS, might aswell just think that all of the RTS games are way too hard and require insane amount of micro, just like titles I mentioned.

Relic deliberately, letting everyone know that game has a feature which allows you to play the game without ... micro at all, lel. So even a guy who knows nothing about RTS, might buy it and play it.