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Thread: PPSH x3 Aftermath Update22 Feb 2014, 13:50 PM Jump back to quoted post22 Feb 2014, 12:25 PMMadok So, for me the only way to access G43s is the 'Jaeger Infantry' commander. Lightning War (free CE commander) and Elite Doctrine have G43s as well. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: PPSH x3 Aftermath Update22 Feb 2014, 12:08 PM Jump back to quoted post22 Feb 2014, 11:42 AMMr. Someguy snip Sure, but those decisions are generally made early to mid game as Ost. PPSH show up during or after FHTs and PGs hit the field, maybe even closer to when T3 is being researched or built. My experience is generally the complete opposite when MU's are concerned. Osts are MU heavy upfront and float more often during mid-late game (or used on Arty/Air strikes, which is seen more often than their Soviet counterparts) while Soviets drain their MUs more later to keep up with German's firepower superiority. Mining, buttoning, AT Grens, smokes, barrage, etc become so crucial for Soviets mid-late game, I often wish I had more MUs at hand and start to wonder "that FU cache I built should've been a MU cache." In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Day 1 Issue's with COH2 that still aren't fixed22 Feb 2014, 08:58 AM Jump back to quoted post22 Feb 2014, 08:15 AMOmega_Warrior #0:Russian late game. x1 -AssGren's useless grenade (make it into the stun grenade or something). -Unit pathing (addtionally...units should be able to vault more frequently over fences and use the shortest route to their destination) -HUGE and obstusive ingame UI -Reinforcing from upgraded halftracks In: Lobby
Thread: Useless TIGER ACE after Aftermath Update!!!22 Feb 2014, 07:37 AM Jump back to quoted post22 Feb 2014, 07:02 AMPorygon Can we actually have the old Ace out of automatch? I want to play lol Ace in ToW That would be awesome, like ROFLstomping around as an early Hive Tyrant in DOW2. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: PPSH x3 Aftermath Update22 Feb 2014, 07:19 AM I always assumed Guard Motor was more popular than Guard Rifle. It's kind of hard to know how popular the PPSH was before the patch without statistical data from Relic (I for one, would love infographics. Some of the best things from community managers of other games are infographics...people love pictures). However, a good indication of how popular certain commanders were, is by jumping onto team games. I play a lot of team games, and seeing PPSH cons were a rarity pre-aftermath. Lots of people rather rush vehicles. This is all subjective of course. Jump back to quoted post22 Feb 2014, 02:43 AMMr. Someguy Exactly, there's no reason not to buy PPSh, it's a no brainer. Well, it's no brainer for Grens to always go LMG whenever possible. Exception being that the LMG does drop at a rare rate after death. In the end, the PPSH is doctrinal, just like the G43 (neither are droppable). Though it might be awesome if any weapon beyond the standard rifle had a small chance or dropping. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: PPSH x3 Aftermath Update22 Feb 2014, 03:36 AM The DPS spreadsheet is updated to the new patch. Just checked. G43 has more damage, and works great at all ranges. PPSH is only effective at close range, and loses its half its DPS at every range after that. I don't see a problem with the PPSH except players are dealing with something that used to be a rarity in the field, and are having a difficult time getting used to it (aka, radio intercept complaints). In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Aftermath Update Impressions Thread20 Feb 2014, 13:04 PM Jump back to quoted post20 Feb 2014, 10:18 AMadrian23 Assgrens have a pretty high cost for what they actually do.. no chance against a good old conscripts spam for example .. and don't you dare to compare assgrens with shocks or guards .. Eh? AssGrens function like super early Shocktroops, which is a hard hitting AI unit with no AT abilities. It is, by definition, an elite unit. I abuse AssGrens early game as Ost because it's hard to counter. MGs get chewed up when flanked (especially microing a garrisoned MG unit last patch...they have no chance), and throw in MG42 support against infantry...bye bye infantry. Relic has stated in this very thread that doctrinal units are suppose to supplement your army, not make it up primarily. This goes against that philosophy. What's wrong with giving its grenade a tiny buff and throwing it at 1CP? Hell, Soviet Irregulars are even 1CP. In: Lobby
Thread: Aftermath Update Impressions Thread20 Feb 2014, 03:09 AM Jump back to quoted post20 Feb 2014, 02:18 AMJohanSchwarz Clearly you're not playing the same game. What's hard to comprehend about PGs nearly standing toe to toe with Shocks? I didn't say they can defeat, nor they're even to Shocks. Vanilla PGs can deal an ok amount of damage behind green cover before shocks close in within their effective range before slugging it out point blank, which PGs lose in the long run. Why are you choosing to debate this, Shocks were moved to 2CP. Debate is PPSHCons vs PGrens, which PPSHCons will lose against the double DPS and .5 armor of PGs. In: Lobby
Thread: Commander Tool 20 Feb 2014, 01:24 AM Awesome tool. A suggestion I might add is if it's possible to add the recharge time for every ability and dispatches. In: News
Thread: Radio Intercept20 Feb 2014, 01:20 AM An actual ability that's never been touched since launch...never been complained about...is considered OP now? I'm pretty sure radio intercept only picks up some chatter. I've ran into bunkers, fuel cache, units, and yes...even mines (last game) that's never been reported. In: COH2 Balance

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