keep ost as benchmark, nerf other factions instead...
PQ doesn't work for relic for over half a decade, let it go already. |
Yet they perform better than g43 stromtroopers.
Stormtroopers were never meant to have nor balanced with G43.
They got the upgrade exclusively because ost community REEEEE'd loud enough, people responsible for balance back then said the upgrade will be irrelevant, but ost community didn't cared, so relic implemented G43 for them and once ost community found out they don't perform as well as with their intended weapons, they collectively made surprised pikachu face. |
cat he mean'ts the scopepd g43 he migh have confused the wepaon profiels (aster all he says crit, but only scoped version can crit)
Its a PF thread, he quoted post about PFs, he is responding to PFs G43 movine accuracy.
Only USF unit with scopes is scoped garands on umm... PFs.
He is indeed very confused. |
blobb USF scoped inf and you have the same. G43 arent the only weapon with this crit abilty. Other faction has this too and u only need to blobb them.
Scoped garands have 0.1 moving accuracy multiplier.
G43s have 0.8.
ullu being ullu |
from all commander inf sqaud...panzerf are not in the top class...they are in mid class since there are shocks, rangers, commandos etc etc
Yes sherlock, a 0CP general mainline infantry is not going to perform as good as 2cp+ much more expensive specialist squads. |
2) Are they used more than Penals?
Would you like an in-depth explanation on why a doctrinal unit that isn't in 100% of doctrines might be used less frequently then stock unit, but still be used frequently? |
funny, i remember u saying the same thing about cons
Oh do you?
Then you also remember low DPS was never cons problem, but utter lack of any scalability into late game and unreliability of said DPS(high dmg, very low accuracy), both of which eventually were addressed and guess what?
Cons still have tons of utility, low DPS and are now actually used.
PFs always had what cons always dreamed off. |
Panzerfüssiliers UP now? I have heard it all on COH2.org.
I wonder what Vipper's opinion was if Panzerfüssiliers were an Allied unit.
So just to summarize: a unit that has 6 man, 3 G43s, longest snare in coh2, grenade without call out, flare, sprint, cheap reinforce cost and overall much stronger combat performance than Volks are considered UP.
Vipper time and time argues that Penals are OP but at the same time thinks Panzerfüssiliers, which are objectively just better, are UP. This must be the absolute definition of ridiculous double standards.
Inb4 lengthy explanation why "this is simply incorrect" comes, explaining you that no amount of utility and combat flexibility(nades, flares, AT nades etc) ever will come close to a bit more dps of penals. |
You attempted to depict "heat shell" (stug's vet 1 ability) as cost efficient compared to Tulips. They are not.
Well, its your opinion, not metrics supported fact.
Actually the ability is borderline UP and need to be looked at, especially compared to abilities like the "HVAP M93 Shells".
Its not like StuG needs to fight 350+ armor vehicles you know. |
That is simply incorrect. The purpose of the unit is to counter Super heavies not mediums.
This is simply incorrect. The purpose of the unit is to counter heavies and meds, because faction lacks intermediate medium AT vehicle which all other factions except UKF got. |
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