It only kills tanks... that's 26 pop cap and 435 fuel tied up in the slowest moving vehicle that has very little anti-inf capability. If you lose your tanks, come back with all infantry and see how he does. |
I'd be happy if it stopped hitting the ground every other shot. |
Thread: Shocks20 Aug 2014, 11:41 AM
Remove armor. They don't need it with 6 men, crazy high dps and smoke. |
+2 |
"By the time the ISU comes out, you should have tigers, jagdtiger, kingtiger."
Just sigh...
Firstly, you most certainly do NOT have jagdtigers or kingtigers out when the ISU hits the field, the fuel cost for those units are drastically higher with OKW reduced fuel income. Besides, you actually NEED to build tiers to get the KT and the JT is so late game and expensive if you lose to it you deserve to lose, but get this.... it only kills tanks. At least your waves of shocks and guards can still win the game for you.
Secondly, the tiger is possibly the worst unit to tackle an ISU with, it's too slow to flank anything.
Thirdly, if the Soviet player has half a brain he'll have a couple AT guns covering the ISUs flanks and then how will your flanking P4s and panthers do?
Kreatiir, do you have a replay showing how you defeat a competently played ISU with your flanking tanks? I'd sure like to see one. |
So the ISU is only countered by 2 units in the game (Elefant and Jagdtiger), and one of them costs a lot more and is only good vs other tanks.
How do you counter ISU without those 2 units? Lets presume the Soviet player isn't an idiot and has either guards or AT guns set up to deny flanking.
I don't want to see the ISU nerfed, I'd rather see counters become more viable. If it does get nerfed, then I hope it's just its AT ability. I'd like to see it shock tanks more, but do less damage and still be lethal to infantry. |
The game has, and probably never will be balanced around team games. All the complaints people have about Axis in 3v3 and 4v4 can be matched by complaints about Allies in 1v1 and 2v2. Just look at OKW vs sniper guards, or ost vs sniper guards.... or OKW + Ost vs sniper guards....basically every combination vs sniper guards, then you bring out the ISUs and its GG. |
Lol to this whole thread. Maybe they should give OKW some good versatile riflemen equivalents that can get lmgs or shreks and cost 280mp. Also a medium tank would be nice. |
1 cp please. This thing is an abomination. Sturmpios might shred it... up close. A decent player won't let you get close enough, and it's resistant enough to small arms at long range that it just cuts through volks with its mg. |
I don't think it's just rng. It's rng and high armour. 3 paks to the front and 2 panthers in the rear (one of them a command panther) couldn't take out 1 of 3 IS-2s. They never tried to maneuver, just sat there and tanked all the shots while focusing down my tanks. We were focusing on one IS-2 and it never went below 25% hp.
I've never seen a tiger just shrug off multiple dedicated AT shots like that while at the same time obliterating squads with its 4.0 AOE. |