Thanks Ash. I know the USF rather well but I appreciate your insight none the less. Pretty clever idea with Mechanized actually. From my Soviet days I tend to have a specific plan for my Doctrines to cover holes and Mech doesnt do this so never really thought of using it that way.
All the ways you mentioned dealing with MGs is pretty vanilla stuff. And it used to work exceptionally well. But I am finding that its not anymore. It obviously depends on the map. I will obviously have to get you all a replay when I find the time to play next and run into this situation.
The Crux is I am finding if Pios are kept near MG42s smoke is of little use if I too lack a scout unit. Because often with AOE suppression being the selling point of the MG42 and the Pios now able to see rifles before the rifles see the Pios I tend to get multi squad suppressed VERY often now in the current build.
When I do smoke will not help me. Because the Pio runs up and hugs the rifles and keeps them that way so I will bleed if I dont retreat. This is obviously very good play. On small maps its pretty brutal as its very easy to have a PIO MG and PIO MG on two places covering quite a bit.
Before I wouldnt worry as smoke was more effective then it is now indirectly. As in it was easier to smoke out an MG before getting multisquad suppressed. And just move the other squad out to flank it. Now its easier to pull this off for a smart Ost player because they can setup at Max Range near a Choke point and see you well in advance so your smoke wont be near enough to the MG and they can easily spot your flank attempt and just re-position and get your flanker too.
So when the retreat is exploited in the early game its compounding my problem because it will delay my light vehicles slightly giving them a less useful lifespan while boosting Osts ability to hit me with a quick P4 before I can have Shermans out or a Stug E.
Next replay where its not a total Ostheer stomp and I play a decent player i will include the replay. You may not see it at your level of play because people get comfortable and want to win so dont change tactics often. And may not have noticed how strong this combo can be early game vs the USF.