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That is not what is being said at all AE.

What we are saying is that the balance team seems to be amalgamating the competitive scene with auto match. In saying that, I think they are doing a great job for the most part. They just need to see the bigger picture and understand what makes the game so much fun to play.

No one here is arguing that slightly different rule set for competitive isn't a good idea but what we are talking here is what will sell COH and what will keep players who play the game playing the game.

Steralising the game so that it pure from a RNG perspective which while from a competitive standpoint is better, what is more important, people watching and enjoying that game or the players?

Just watch a streamer play, watch them carry on like chooks when RNG goes against them, then laugh out loud when the gods are on their side.

There is room for both, don't ruin the competitive advantage that COH2 has.

RNG is what makes this game entertaining.

Extreme RNG is what makes this game even more entertaining....but even more frustrating for tournament gameplay.

To be honest I'm fine with extreme RNG because of the entertainment value, but I know other players would flip a desk because of it, which is understandable.

Exactly, it makes it interesting to watch, that is why it is doing so well at the moment. People are watching people play and the RNG is the unique advantage the COH2 has over its competitors.

People don't realise just how much of a failure SC2 was, considering the pedigree it came from, the sales of it and the sheer esteem that SC1 was held in, the numbers that are playing it are dismal. It's because its boring to watch, boring to play. It's because its the same equation as Warcraft 1.

COH turned that all its head, it basically combined board games with die roll's to a RTS and made it fun. Sometimes, you play well, it goes badly, sometimes, you get outplayed, luck helps you. Most of the time, it goes as per statistics.

I get the frustration with MGC, they could be toned down a little. Plane crash change was completely unnecessary, its moment's like that that get people hooked on the game. I still remember playing Emperor - Battle for Dune (Sequel to Dune2) and the one game that I remember the most was a game when I was playing as Hakonnen vs Atreides and he managed to build up a huge tank force and he started marching towards my base and I took out a few on the sides with my missile tanks but because he had so much tanks on the sand, the sandworm came out and ate a big chunk of his tanks, completely RNG. It allowed me to stop the advance and turn the game around making a win that has lasted in my memory for over 25 years now.

Stop thinking about it from a E-Sports perspective, Relic needs to think about it from a standard player perspective and what it is like to watch the game. I like watching Tightrope play because he gives comments on what is likely to happen RNG wise in a particular skirmish on the map but then watch him sook when luck goes against him and then the tempered enjoyment he displays when luck goes his way. You can see the internal dilemma in his head, he knows luck always comes back and lately, he has had a hard time re-conciliating that luck always comes back around.

It's interesting, it makes watching COH one of the best games to watch. It's one of the reasons why I like watching PUBG and not CS-GO. As someone who won money playing CS, someone who was paid to go to the US to report on CS and someone who has been involved in gaming for 30 years now, you need to think about what will bring numbers and this puerile madness that seems to have crept in will kill the biggest competitive advantage that COH 2 has. PUBG is the same, the actual core of the game is unparalleled. It is far more fun to play that CS-GO, its far more enjoyable to watch because it has a little bit of RNG to it. Sometimes, you come up against someone looking the wrong way, sometimes, you get a crate but for the majority of it, its about skill. CS-GO is perfected, every line is basically understood, every play has been worked out, basically no luck whatsoever. Very repetitive and you can now see that it is starting to struggle again after the Free to play and the massive bounce that gave it competitively for the last year. Mark my words, it will slowly go the way of SC2.

I'm not sure why they are determined to have automatic crew grenades on the comet either, one of the dumbest mechanics in the game. Just make it manual. Remove an ability from the comet, it doesn't have to do everything.

One huge advantage League of legends has is the constantly changing meta because they update it so often. We are talking massive meta changes every year, they understand that a stale meta means loss of players.

It's not an admission of failure to balance, in fact, its a balancing act in itself.

League of Legends copied DOTA's ban system because it was superior. COH2 should copy League of Legends ban system because it is superior.

I see what you are saying Sanders but you are trying to conflate two different issues, the ban system and the balancing. Just because one unit is clearly broken at the moment and will make the ban system less effective, it doesn't change the fact that the ban system would still result in a more interesting game for players and spectators alike.

One of the reasons why Tightrope is the best streamer to watch (aside from his magnificently shiny bald head) is that he is constantly trying to make different strategies work. It's interesting to watch, a lot of people enjoy the mathematics of games and working out strategies is almost a game in of itself.

How is it admitting they have a problem with the game.

There will always be overpowered stuff, you have to keep the meta fresh otherwise you get bore fests like the grand final.

Having a faction ban system and commander ban system is interesting to watch because you can now ban certain commanders and leave open some commanders which you can counter yourself. ]

Just watching the ban phase on league of legends is hugely popular and is part of the show itself.