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Thread: ISU-15228 Apr 2014, 17:15 PM Jump back to quoted post28 Apr 2014, 15:21 PMSully AT guns work, but I agree that Soviets could use a more substantial AT infantry unit. Deserves its own thread though. I disagree, it's the army design, same as Americans from vCOH. It is a different topic though. In any case, even a single infantry-supported Zis can easily take down an Elefant. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: ISU-15228 Apr 2014, 12:50 PM If you can circle strafe an ISU with 2 stugs then you are playing against someone that has no idea how to properly support his units. The Elefant is completely beside the point of this discussion. I haven't played with, or against, the Elefant enough to comment. Start a thread called "Elefant" if you think the Elefant is a problem. This thread is about the ISU. As for the Brummbar, there is a world of difference between 40 range and 100 range. 40 range puts you face-to-face with an AT gun; 100 range does not. And I've never seen a Brummbar 1-shot a Zis squad. Video please? Again, I think it was Shazz who said it best: great AI, great AT, extreme range--pick two. (The Elefant that everyone keeps complaining about in this thread only has two, as does the Tiger). In: COH2 Balance
Thread: ISU-15227 Apr 2014, 22:20 PM Jump back to quoted post27 Apr 2014, 22:12 PMvan Voort "Apart from the people who disagree with me because they are biased, everybody agrees with me" Just the pro players. Now as far as the game goes if you don't have respective tank force when ISU arrives I dare to say that you've lost this game long before this happens. The game that I played that made me so passionate about this issue was going my way all day until the ISU hit the field... at which point my army evaporated. Did you see the game that got Hans so upset earlier today? It was neck-and-neck vs. cruzz, right up until the ISU hit the field. At that exact moment, he had the strategic initiative. On a more general note, there is an enormous difference between 1-shotting a squad and 2-shotting a squad. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: ISU-15227 Apr 2014, 21:59 PM On a more serious note, it seems both Hans and VonIvan are in favor of nerfing the ISU, at least vs. infantry. So it seems like among those without a huge bias there is a consensus here. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: ISU-15227 Apr 2014, 21:50 PM Jump back to quoted post27 Apr 2014, 21:44 PMChegwin This game is about reflex, fast managment of troops and thats it. Top players dont impress with some well thought out tactics but the responce time they give command to units. That's right folks, COH is all about the APM. /sarcasm In: COH2 Balance
Thread: ISU-15227 Apr 2014, 21:30 PM Jump back to quoted post27 Apr 2014, 21:17 PMKatitof Still beats you. In the absence of an actual "ignore" function I will just say that I am no longer responding to you. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: ISU-15227 Apr 2014, 20:20 PM Jump back to quoted post27 Apr 2014, 20:17 PMKatitof I like how you try to argue that lil fact. Makes me smile irl. Playercard or GTFO. I don't think you play both factions and I don't think you care about balance, you just want Soviets to have the advantage and I think that's ridiculous. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: ISU-15227 Apr 2014, 20:05 PM AoE kills bunched up infantry. Thats how AoE works. EDIT: Katitof why don't you show us your playercard so we can see how many games you play as the respective factions? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: ISU-15227 Apr 2014, 16:36 PM Jump back to quoted post27 Apr 2014, 15:54 PMtokarev Are you complaining about 100 range? Or you're complaining about a squad at HALF of its health getting killed by a single shot of 152mm gun? Uhhh the problem isn't the 2-man squad, it's the 4-man squad at 90% health. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: ISU-15227 Apr 2014, 16:34 PM Jump back to quoted post27 Apr 2014, 16:01 PMChegwin You can kill SU85 with 1pak but you cant kill a Brummbar with 2zis You absolutely can kill a Brummbar with 2 zis as long as they are not directly next to each other. And the Brummbar cannot kill the pak from beyond the pak's functional range, especially if it has even a single con squad in support. In: COH2 Balance

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