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Thread: Hands on Western Fronts Armies7 Jun 2014, 14:39 PM Panzerfusilier???? Looks like a 5 man squad with rifles. The source picture shows them side by side with Jagdtigers, which is correct for the doctrine. --------------------------------------------- Units not seen: -Puma -Jagdpanzer IV -Walking Stuka -Puppchen -20mm HT -Panzer IV short and long =------------------------------------------- Unit build order (tentative) -use LW or Breakthrough -Kubel + Volksgrens + elite infantry + puppchen supported by 20mm HT -Hoard fuel to rush for JPz IV, and then walking stuka * Skip Heavy Panzer and Battle Group buildings (not sure if the latter is possible). In: Lobby
Thread: Hands on Western Fronts Armies7 Jun 2014, 06:26 AM Psquieh: {Walking Stuka} is 100 fuel. Crossing fingers: Jagdpanzer iv and Walking stuka will be in the same building. In: Lobby
Thread: Hands on Western Fronts Armies7 Jun 2014, 05:35 AM Most of the OKW infantry are elite troops that will be costly. Literally the only cheapo squad we have seen is the volksgrens. I think the MG-34 HMG will probably be the only other cheap one. The puppchen will probably be bought as for the MG-34 HMG. The 75mm ID...I don't know. So I'm thinking that what's going happen with squads is that people are going to use Volksgrens as the base and then they supplement with the elite troops of their choice: Sturmpioneer (short-mid range), Obersoldaten (mid-long range), Sturm officer squad (mid-long range), Panzerfusilier (extra long range), and FJs' (all ranges). Jump back to quoted post7 Jun 2014, 05:25 AMbraciszek As well as the commanders. Ive checked, and the list for nondoctrinal tanks and infantry is the largest in OKW. There are more vehicles than any other faction, and you have a viable infantry squad for nearly every situation. Also: Building Skipping with doctrines: We have Battle Group Headquarters with 75mm ID, IR halftrack, Pz II Luchs, Panther We have Heavy Panzer Headquarters with Obersoldaten, ST, KT. One can skip Battle Group or Heavy Panzer with Luftwaffe Ground Force, Special ops and Breakthrough Doctrine. There's going to more, of course, but unlike the other factions I think in certain circumstances one only needs to build 1 building with OKW if doctrines are applied. In: Lobby
Thread: Hands on Western Fronts Armies7 Jun 2014, 05:20 AM ^ Wow. that's basically Ostheer's own version of dual T-34/76 call-ins. Here are infantry/support weapon Combos that seem feasible and effective. Volksgrens would be the only economical infantry to re-man support weapons: Volksgrenaders + puppchen against Armor Obersoldaten and volksgrens + 75mm IG against infantry and support weapons Sturmpioneers as raiders. 2 x obersoldaten to do high MG damage. ...........And we haven't even seen most of the new squads yet. I'm loving this faction's variety. In: Lobby
Thread: Hands on Western Fronts Armies7 Jun 2014, 04:30 AM ^ The Pz II Luchs was an obscure late war conversion of the Panzer II series. MG-34s were used by the Wehr for the whole war. The Obersoldaten are firing them while moving. I personally think that they were in fact better than the 42s because their ROF was high but still manageable. I'm 100% sure that the trailer gun is a puppchen. There's no AT gun as small as it in the Wehrmacht: There are at least two buildings that we haven't seen: 1. The Starting Building (presumably makes engineers, volksgrens, and kubels. Other things may be made) 2. There is certainly a building or two that has the missing halftracks and puma. None of the 3 baseline doctrines have the Jagdpanzer IV. In: Lobby
Thread: Hands on Western Fronts Armies7 Jun 2014, 03:41 AM ^^ Unfortunately they did not show the 88mm 'Puppchen' (OKW's AT gun) that I spotted earlier in the trailer. I expect it to be a super panzershreck with longer range and accuracy. I expect its mobility to be like a HMG or mortar. In: Lobby
Thread: Hands on Western Fronts Armies7 Jun 2014, 02:49 AM I saw the obersoldaten throw this super grenade. The explosion is much larger than a bundle nade. It is either unit specific or doctrinal. Obersoldaten have 1 MG-34 starting out. The second MG-34 is either a pickup or even a veterancy perk. Obersoldaten vet 1: Smoke Grenade Obersoldaten vet 3: Self healing over time. The Volksgrenadiers have no upgrades other than 1 Panzershreck but they can throw grenades. Volksgrenadier vet 3: Self Healing over time. other vets: accuracy, survivability, sight range Command Panther cost 560 Manpower, fuel= unknown. Psquieh notes that one of the OKW commanders has a call-in Ostwind. In: Lobby
Thread: Hands on Western Fronts Armies7 Jun 2014, 02:16 AM The vet 2, vet 3 ubersoldaten have 2 MG-34s....and the MG-34 can be fired on the run like BARs and such. It's not like the LMG42. In: Lobby
Thread: Hands on Western Fronts Armies7 Jun 2014, 01:47 AM yeah, nvm, it's 26. The KT takes about a dozen point blank hits to the rear by the T-34/85s before it goes down. It's probably best to use it like an assault gun and supported like one, too. I saw Front armor hits bounce and do zero damage. Its movement speed: It's faster and more maneuverable than ISU/elefant but slower than Tiger & IS-2. Gunfire damage? It penned a T-34/85 and took 1/3rd health away. I'm guessing damage is 240-160. OKW lacks indirect fire and suppression. I can only think of the Walking stuka, which is not shown. The 75mm ID is long ranged but seems to have less firepower and accuracy than I anticipated. This pretty much makes the call-in HMG MG-34 pretty important. In: Lobby
Thread: Hands on Western Fronts Armies7 Jun 2014, 01:09 AM So OKW tanks don't take up popcap? surprising. In: Lobby