Profile of van Voort

Play both factions is about the only one of those I would agree with, but I have heard all 3 put foward at one time or another and if you take them all together that leaves a very small ammount of people whose opinion is suppossed to matter.

However as no one has chimed to defend the other two I will consider my point made.

I abstained BTW

I was in much the same position, I started playing with just the Soviets and only started playing Ost later.

Some suggestions:

Commander makes much less difference to the Germans unless you pick Mechanised Assault or Ostruppen (both of which in some respects, especially the former play like pre-patch Sovs)

Therefore take options that do not have particularly unique units and learn to play the German Core.

Depending on the game mode and the level of opposition you will probably get to build 3 out of 4 buldings and 4 is not uncommon.

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The Russians are a la carte fine dining, because all your choices matter and they have to work well together.

The Germans are an all you can eat buffet, you can generally take a little of everything



My suggested choices:

Anything with Recon, Spotting Scope or Smoke Dischargers.

Being able to see what the Soviets are up to is very useful, and you'll have to deal with your armour being buttoned and marked which is very unpleasent if it has never happened to you before.

I wish they'd just release the entire complete game instead just regurgitating the same things we've already bought back at us in the form of Dlc commanders. What's next? A Partisan doctrine with Ania and her sniper teams from the campaign as a vet 3 call in sniper group?

Fair Enough, though what works in TOW is not the same as what works otherwise so there is a development, testing and balancing cost.


The KV1 from TOW is the same skin as the call-in, but the costs are different

Similarly the B4s that are in Blitzkreig and Smolensk are not the same thing as the buildible unit either.

Same is also true of the STUG-E you have in 1941, which in MP is unjustly pilloried but in 1941 TOW is about as good as you can get and costs about 3 times as much

I love also that after 7 pages of discussion it is mostly about whether the DLC should exist.


No one appears to have taken the basic step of booting up the game and playing the TOW mission in question to remind themselves

"No retreat, no surrender"

Commissar squad there is a 3 man unit, the Commissar and two riflemen (someone better than me will be able to see the unit stats no doubt)


Buffs nearby infantry, if he dies units instantly shatter and are pinned.

VET 1:

50 MUN Spy Network (As partisans I believe)

VET 2:

Call in a KV2 440 MP / 250 F / 22 PC

VET 3:

Il2 Bomb Strike 200 MUN


Vet abilities sound interesting, but you have to Vet up a three man squad you can never retreat and screws you if it dies.



Normally you can have more than 1 it seems, but you cannot build anymore in the TOW Mission and you can select a normal commander on top. I went for Defensive Commander so as not to screw things up too much.


Also the TOW mission is early 43 with all that entails so the units are not the same as in MP.




In this mission No Retreat No Surrender buffs MP by 50 but disables retreats.


Also to be noted is that the TOW has radio towers so new units come in further up the field.

On big multiplayer maps it is going to be a long walk home to get healed if necessary and a long walk back afterwards so field prescence will be a problem

Also, whilst the Soviets have two methods to reinforce in the field (Merge + M5) I don't think that they have any way to heal.

This may be a problem