Profile of Jaigen

the tiger has hardly any counters at the mom

Its called the su-85. but nobody uses it because the soviets has such excellent medium and heavy tank call in. look at recent dual between 4 t-34-85 the tigers won only by a knife's edge.
that shit would not be possible in coh 1.


Tier 3 for the germans is a damn mess. it has no heavy AT as the stug's role got alterd(and it really wouldnt mind if the stug became the new su-85 with increased cost) and the p4 is pretty much subpar compared to the t34-85 or sherman. the panther got even further nerfs making it useless.
The only real strategy the germans have left is either tigers , elephants , pak 43 or plain old infantry spam.

sorry, i edited my post, removed that part about the tiger. That was a bit stupid on my part.

As for tiger vs IS-2. The IS-2 has 960 hp, tiger has 1280 hp. Which means that the tiger has a massive advantage, IS-2 slightly higher pen and slightly higher armor 220 vs 200 and 340 vs 300 doesn't hold up because the tiger can take 3 more shots all while the tiger fires faster.
I just dont see the point of having an IS-2 anymore. Two t-34/85s do the job much better both at killing infantry , can take 1 less shot before dying than the IS-2,and do more AT damage, also they come with mark target. I don't see why there should be such a MASSIVE difference between the two tanks...

oh the difference between armor and penetration is minor

is penetration rate = 300/190 {max range} 63.3 %
tiger penetration rate 340/180 (max range ) 52% %

thats 10 % in favor of the is2. but as i already said the is2 is will be at an disadvantage

Stop saying panther is useless, because its most certainly not.
Its slightly too expensive, but the stats are fine.

We are entitled to our opinions . if you disagree then provide arguments. Lets do a quick comparision between the panther and the tiger. even if panthers fuel was brought back to 145 the tiger would still be way more cost effective. it has more then 2 times the survivability, superior AT, AI that only the ostwind or brumbar can match and you dont need tier 4 for it and way better veterancy. the panther can only claim it has superior speed and a bit more range. at even the range is counteracted by the vet.

I've given elaborated answer to his claims with explanation on why he is wrong on most of his points.

Dont make me laugh. as usual you don't give good arguments to back up your opinions or once again you say l2p. not to mention the arguments you do give are false or are strawmen.

P4 scatter change was put in place because P4 obliterated infantry as well as tanks, there was absolutely no reason to get OStwind or StuG, now each have their own + and - and I see you have decided to completely ignore huge pintle MG buff, which makes it much better at AI.

Scatter does not automatically turn a unit less viable. after the nerf the p4 still did a number to infantry and t-34's nothing changed. So you argument really doesn't make any sense.

Back then the p4 flat out won against the t-34 and the other main tank of the soviets was the su-85 which required flanking. Their was no need for the stug safe for the kv1 and is-2. and the ostwind is awesome but very hefty investment.

and the mg42 buff. yeah its nice it also cost 50 ammo. even so the t-34 is still a better AI tank because it needs far less shots to kill a gren squad,

i want the p4 be better at the ai front since the t-34 received buffs that made it more or less equal in at.

About StuG, it got cost reduction and considerable buff against infantry. It still have better AT DPS then P4, and getting it together with P4 is a good idea. It costs 80 fuel, 5 more then T-70 and SU-76, don't expect it to be effective against heavy armor, because its clearly not what it is intended to do. Against med armor its only slightly less effective then it was.

Thats nice but you dont address my point. The germans already have a medium generalist they dont need another. Once again how are the germans going to fill their dedicated anti heavy tank in tier 3 without a tiger or elephant.

Pgrens are not assault infantry, they are clearly not meant to be as PQ said.
Try using them as intended.

No they are supposed to be used as flankers and they suck balls at it. standing in cover and shooting at stuff is something lmg42 grens do way better.

Panther deserves some fuel cost decrease, but thats it, its fine stat-wise now.

you give no arguments . in what way is it fine ? because currently the panther is not even suited in taking out t-34's.