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The best thing you can do in that situation is flank with is2 and make forward push with su76,at guns and your infantry also drop incendiary artillery on enemy infantry/at guns near the jagdtiger.

Thanks yeah, unfortunately lost the IS-2 carelessly to the appearance of the JadgT but will bear that in mind.

sorry, but your problem is that your opponent is smarter and didnot choosed doctrine in the first minutes like lots of noobs does.

It should be common, like in coh1 that you only choose doctrine when you know your enemys, so he saw he needs a Jagd against you, and you got rekt. Nothing wrong with it.

It's a fair comment, but a lot more applicable to Axis players rather than the Soviets who often rely on elite infantry from these doctrines.

I played hundreds of hours in VCoH and it was a more common thing to do then, but let's be honest most of the time you'd pick Infantry as American and Commandos as Brits; Terror as Wehr and ? as PE, almost certain in 1v1 if you look at the tournament replays, it was not common to deviate from that.
Same in CoH2 with Shock Rifle being common for IS-2, along with a few other common commanders. How often do you see Partisans for example?

What doctrine would you suggest I plan to when I see a JagdT? Forgoing elite troops until I see Panzer Fusiliers, which were not present this game. Should I be stocking my fuel in preparation for a heavy tank or spending it freely with no doctrine picked as I don't know which commander he has gone. Your advice is completely useless in countering JagdT; if you watch most casted games they pick their doctrines very early on. The Germans have more flexibility in this generally.

So in the current meta I go for a large T3 - M5 into 3 SU-76s and build AT guns/shocks with spare manpower till IS-2; which usually comes around just in time for 230 fuel.
Found a real problem recently against a sudden Jagdtiger on the open north side with this. There were no tells he'd gone [Breakthrough?] commander till then, no panzerfusiliers. I should have pushed harder or gone to support my ally before it came out but just sat on the VPs and assaulted their munitions. As my IS-2 rolled up the Jagd appeared and it got taken out along with most of my T3 (Panzer IVs were already in play).
In the past a big T34 flank with infantry assault would sort it, but I was out of fuel. Because of my sudden weakness the Ostheer armour bruising my ally drove over and crushed the middle. I wanted to fight it out but my ally had already been battered the whole game and was insistent we conceded; things did look forlorn.

Anyway, sorry for the long story. I was essentially wondering how to counter a Jagdtiger in that situation (T3 heavy --> IS-2), or whether a build order change is required from early game. I had the AT guns ready for a KT and heavier armour.

Again there were a variety of sub optimal tactical decisions, but the appearance of the Jagd is what tipped the balance into Axis favour.

Thanks for the advice guys. We'll give it a go.
Do you really think 76's are the way to go though? Just reading your post I'm having visions of T34 wrecks everywhere in sight with a low health Panther zooming away.

Hey guys,

So I play a lot of 2v2 games with a friend and usually we have a decent win rate using a variety of tactics/doctrines. We have run into severe problems recently however using a rather standard one:

Usually I go T1 --> T2 then wait for IS-2's (Shock Rifle Frontline), while he goes for T2 --> T4 play (Counterattack). In recent games however, despite holding at the very least our fuel, and for one game both fuels and most of the map for the majority of the game; we find ourselves completely undone at the very endgame.

When the axis are below 100 VPs, sometimes with less than 10 to go we are pushed back by a King Tiger (sometimes a Tiger too) but more importantly 2-4 Panthers supporting it. 2 IS-2's with AT gun and SU-85 support, vetted infantry too, just gets pushed back further and further it seems - the IS's taking a beating and having to repair for years. Panther and KT front armour seems to be able to tank it significantly better, causing a lot of glancing shots from all of the above. They also seem to be repaired quicker or have enough panthers undamaged they can chase down the occasional damaged vehicle and blitz away or just sit at the VPs and chip away far too well at infantry trying to cap.

What are we doing wrong?