Profile of bigchunk1

I think skipping tier 1 as Germans is a big mistake. The building is only 80 manpower and 15 fuel if I recall correctly. With grendiers and mg42s on the field the soviet player is much more restricted in how they can move about the map, both with infantry and light vehicles. Having only pioneers to hold the map until t2 is also costly in the early game.

That was a nice supply cuttoff early in the game, it just shows how much you dominated the map at that point.

Be careful with your M3 when a German 222 scout car is out. It can take the M3 out faster than it can turn and run. Try to keep it in the back of your forces or have a conscript squad close by.

Good play overall though. Way to punish a strategy at its faults.

Frankly, I feel like I need the scout car to get through the early game. It's the only early game hard counter to an mg42 and allows unit mobility. The only thing I worry about early with an m3 is the grenadier panzerfaust and the 222 scout car. It might be too good, but I don't know about that since the soviet players I have faced tend not to get them.

I feel exactly the same way as OP. Clowncars are verry effective early game units that really dosent require much skill to get much effect from. There really arent any effective counters until T2.

T2 comes so quickly that that's not really an issue is it?

the problem wasnt the panther underperfrming it was the su85 overperforming - there are like 10 other topics discussing why the su85 is currently OP

I think this is pretty much spot on. The way things currently are, soviets don't actually get tanks, they mass SU-85s. Yes the panther is supposed to dominate tanks. It actually stands a pretty fair chance at beating an IS-2, and is more than an even shot against an ISU-152.

I think SU-85s should not reverse as quickly as they do. That would be a good first thing to look at.

For the record, I think panthers are in a pretty good place right now.

I dont understand why people think T34 should be a PIV counter.

Cost alone disqualifies this argument, let alone assymetric design.

And in each case, T34s categorically counter PIVs due to Ram.

There are two units that characterize the soviet army in world war 2. There are conscripts, and there is the T34. Just like the conscript is the core of the infantry, so too is the T34 the core of the armor. The defining selling point in this game for me is when I saw T34s in a trailer.

After thinking about it for awhile now and playing many games, honestly, I don't like the Panzer4 T34 design as it is now. They should not be so asymmetric as to avoid fighting one another. They should be more or less equivalent tanks. No other way will you encourage the great tank battles that characterized the eastern front so well. If the price needs to be changed to account for this that's ok.

Early in the war, Zealous and inexperienced soviet tank commanders used their tank to ram the enemy on very rare occasions, but this was never the primary go to way to fight a battle.

Here's my suggestion:

-Make the t34 and the Panzer4 rough equivalents just as the conscript and grenadier squads are now.

-Make ram a vet1 ability or

-Add a purchasable upgrade from the Tier3 building called "Remove Speed Governor" costing 200mp and 40 fuel which unlocks the ramming ability for t34s. Alternatively, this could be a per unit munitions cost.

-Allow Germans to purchase an 'upgun' ability to change their Panzer 4s main gun to a high velocity long barreled anti-tank gun costing 200 manpower and 40 fuel. Much like the Sherman upgrade from coh1. Alternatively, this could be a per unit munitions cost.



T-34s, as they are now are some kind of strange warped version as what they were historically. The t34 was an essential and widely used component of nearly every soviet formation from the beginning of the war to its end.

Relic please stop listening to people that just complain because they are losing games. I am not a noob, and i just want to make the balance more competitive and therefor improve MP

Spamming SU-85, sniper and guards does a pretty good job of winning. Do we want to encourage that though? Don't you want to see more variety in units? It's not just about winning, it's about playing a quality game.

It could work sometimes, but a half decent player, will move his squad, and your mortar will not likely be able to kill two guys at once!

Yes it can. It happened to my snipers yesterday while on the move and I got so angry. Snipers are often victims of random tragedies.