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Pgrens - if a guy with Schreck dies, the Schreck gets dropped/destroyed. You need to pick it up or re-buy.

Guards - if a guy with DP lmg or PTRS rifle dies, it gets dropped/destroyed. You need to pick it up or re-buy.

LMG Grens - if the guy with the LMG dies, another LMG spawns in the hands of another squad member.

It get so far that when you kill the squad one by one like this there are FOUR LMGs lying around...mental

(just for the record the final member has a chance of dropping it, btw if you upgrade Grens with LMG and G43s, then 3 upgraded members die and the one with kar98k retreats, the reinforced members get another LMG/G43s.

Jump back to quoted post17 Oct 2013, 18:44 PM=][=mmortal

I dont think this would significantly impact the game in regards to the LMG. Teching in coh2 is very rapid, almost as fast as you might get the muns in the first place on a low income 1v1 map or if you get cutoff early. More over I dont believe LMGs are imba.

Rebalancing the building issue in t0 is key but its as much an issue of map design as unit design. Rifle grenades are no where near as cost effective as molotovs. 15 muns for an ability that uses input lag/pathing to its advantage is a great value. God forbid your support teams repeatedly tries to pick up a MG while standing in flames if the gunner dies first. Molotovs never stop being useful throughout the game but they turn the building wars at the start one sided.

Most games I dont even get a LMG with my first 60 muns because there is literally so many other important things for ostheer to do with it that waiting a few mins wouldnt change my personal gameplay at all. And lately I've been trying g43s for something different vOv

Jump back to quoted post17 Oct 2013, 10:47 AMrofltehcat

I think making them immune to a core game mechanic is a bad way to go.

With the LMG42 long range DPS decreased (normalized to the level of other weapons), I think the way to go for now should be a decrease in their build time. This means Penals can finally fulfill their long range DPS role, which they can keep up for a long time from cover and pretty cheaply when Conscripts merge into them.
One main reason for their lacking performance (being beaten at long range DPS) is now gone. This means that the meta might shift into a more penal-friendly state all by itself.
The decreased build time would still be good so the massive hole in field presence created by long build times of T1 + penals is decreased a bit and to incentivize people to try them out again.