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I couldnt play recently, dont take this question for a flame or something, does AEC does his job against luch ?

The AEC is great against the Luchs... but not against the 3 schrecks plus rak that is going to be following the luchs around. In my opinion the AEC is just awful because of it's timing and role - same reason the OKW Puma is rarely, if ever seen.

A light vehicle that counters other light vehicles but is borderline useless against infantry just isn't a good fuel investment given that it is going to push back your first tank by such a large margin. Brits are really going to be hurting this patch against OKW with losing their only reliable snare (sniper unless already vet 1)...

I dunno, maybe I'll write up my thoughts on what is wrong with this patch another time, I just don't have the heart or motivation to do it...

Suppression off ISG and Pack Howi is a step in the right direction and mitigating the effects of Vet 4/5 while bringing OKW resources up to 100% is also good but...

Such fast Luchs, Sturms being cheaper plus OKW starting with a disgusting amount of manpower plus Volks STILL having schrecks while being great early/mid game, T4 still locking down a stupid amount of the map, double grenade on Volks, mobile demo charges (as if we needed even MORE things that kill squads in one shot)... I just don't know...

I always prefer trying to adapt over just QQing about OP since it doesn't really get you anywhere but I'm not sure how Allies win team games this patch. Maybe perfect Soviet sniper play into ISU152 or something? Anything else vehicle wise is just going to get eaten alive by a dumb amount of schrecks everywhere.

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Read number 2, dumb thread over.

Checking takes less time than writing

Still not sure why you're defending a guy who associates himself with a player that purposely smurfs as community members for the sole purpose of trying to give them a bad reputation.

Guess I'm the bad guy though, since our illustrious friend Daspoulos isn't here to defend himself.

This community though.

P.S. - Just so you know Acht, Das is so obsessed with me (and he can't contact me on Steam) that he tells other people to call me "a fat fuck" for him. Pretty cool guy.

Just when I thought Daspoulos couldn't get any more pathetic...

A few quick clarifications before I go to bed for the night (oh and thank you all for the good discussions so far, keep it up!)

I think the flamethrower mechanics are fine, flamethrowers just need to be removed from riflemen given their flexibility, great vet bonuses, vehicle snare and ability to equip a BAR on top of the flamer.

Indirect fire - probably just removing suppression would be fine rather than making them all baby howitzers. I would enjoy that style of play but I can see how others would find it annoying to micro.

@ZombieRommel - even without blobbing ISGs and Pack Howis have the ability to swing unwinnable fights in your favor just by suppressing units, this is the main thing that breaks them in my opinion.

Regarding flame tanks - I do think they they should be better against AT guns than other tanks, but the flame DOT pushes them over the top. The same thing happens to AT guns that happened to MGs in molotovs. The guy dragging the gun dies so the next crew member runs into the fire to pick up the gun... and then dies because he's in fire - repeat. This allows tanks like the KV-8 and Croc to frontally assault an AT gun position, spew flames everywhere and then back out and just let the AT guns roast.

AT guns are useful ONLY against tanks. Therefore their counter should be:

-Being flanked by anything
-Infantry pushes
-Smoke
-Indirect Dire
-Off maps
-Snipers
-Grenades
-Any combination of the above

There are already plenty of AT gun counters in the game, we don't need more.

As far as loiters go I think the main issue is that not all factions always have reliable access to AA units. If USF skips LT it will cost them 100 fuel to grab an AA HT to counter Ju87s from one shotting their tanks.

OKW has to invest in the Mech truck - easily the weakest truck in this patch and then pay for the 251 Flak.

Soviet has to invest a ton of munitions into their M5 - thankfully the M5 is still quite strong but there are plenty of situations in which this isn't going to be a wonderful option to have to go for.

On top of that there is not much counter play in the first pass coming in. If there were more time to react - or if the radius was smaller the burden of not having access to AA would be lessened. Furthermore strafes like Ju87 targeting infantry and subsequently obliterating them is hard to swallow. The planes loiter for a LONG time and on many maps they lock down such a huge area for such a long time it is overly crippling to the receiving player.

I'm sure there are other systems Relic could look into to provide the same sort of "air-force supporting the army push" feel without giving players "counter everything in this giant AoE for the next 45 seconds" abilities.