Profile of Con!

ppsh as fuel based global upgrade wouldn't work in the game because the Germans have no counter part, so germans would just rush for t3 and oh look soviets have no tanks. I like having 5 cps instead of 3 with a choice on each if they could introduce some choice into that system it would be nice but also probably not work. If you haven't noticed you never see ppsh docs with call-in tanks. this means when you pick those docs your making a strategic choice of better basic infantry over late game tanks.

Having choice in a 5 cp system just adds way too much uncertainty unless none of the docs have any overlap. And in some cases having redundancy is a good thing. Having commanders that can completely change the way a game is played is great, relic just needs to do more of them and needs to balance them better. the more commanders there are the more likely that the meta will get less stale as people will have options to play completely differently them someone else. The more of this they do the better, of course too much and balance gets out of hand quick.

You guys not looking for strategists?

This isn't a whine about OP Soviet units.

I played a 2 v 2 yesterday versus two Soviets. They both went with doctrines that gave them specialist infantry (Shocks / Guards) and 120mm mortars. This allowed them to go T2 support weapon spam, lots of MGs and 3 x ZiS on the field.

We were playing Rails and Metal. When I saw shocks I decided to go for a flame halfie, which was promptly brewed up by lurking guards with AT rifles, and of course the homing AT nades of the 'scripts.

The synergy of doctrines in 2 v 2 seems very powerful, especially the specialist infantry options that allow support unit spam (srsly, the amount of mortar fire raining down was incredible). I chose assgrens to try and counter shocks and got my ass handed to me.

Any ideas as how to manage this problem?

In the spirit of this forum assume I've L2P etc.

If you loss your flamer ht to gaurds right away you used it wrong. you should always screen troops infront of your flamer ht to see what is in the area and then hit the weakest point, where there is little AT to kill you.

Assgrens are a horrible choice vs. shocks. From an infantry stand point you should use grens with g-43's or lmgs and probably an mg to deal with shocks as well as a t2 vechile as germans. To deal with guards just get pgrens.

If you got your FHT at a reasonable time they shouldn't be able to have both gaurds and shocks all over the map espically on a map as big as Rails and metal which is the kind of map you generally have one player in charge of one side with minor help from the other player (othwerwise they just gave you a side from free). So there should be some place you can push with it that won't die to AT.

If he is getting a lot of 120 mortars you can counter with the mortar ht or simply just infantry since each player shouldn't have more then 1 and each player has to control both sides and if has more then one just flank him. late game you should have atleast one of you go t4 and get panzerwherfers that will deal with all the support weapons.

If they are getting a lot of maxims then you need an mg42 to slow them done and some mortar fire, and possibly a sniper to deal with them.

1 cp shocks and gaurds are not op, what your describing is a combined arms soviet army you need to respond in kind with one of your own. If they are bunching up then that means that they are weak some place else and you or your ally should exploit that and prevent them from being able to just leave one unit or so to lock down a side.

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Game 1 of Insane Ivan vs. Con. Featuring Con as the soviets and Insane Ivan as the Germans. Long game