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Thread: Is Vickers K moving accuracy is really 60%?15 Mar 2022, 09:42 AM Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2022, 00:02 AMVipper The original modifier where CD increase by 20% reload by 40% there might have been some changes since then but I have not gone through the patch notes to check. According to the attribute editor, this is still the case. Can't find anything in the patch notes, so I assume this is still true. Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2022, 09:27 AMVipper On the contrary Imo it is pretty clear that moving accuracy modifier is not actually 0.25 since that would probably result at moving DPS of around 15% and the test indicates something more in the lines of 33%. Actually it very easy to get the stats of the wrong weapons since the name of the weapon are not really helpful. Actually I would suggest you if he has all the values to provide this stats to Hannibal and request from him to calculate the theoretical DPS and the check that with in game tests. This should bring down the hypothetic IS with BAR at range 20 to 3.6 DPS, compared to the shakily estimated 1.3 of the Vickers. If I recalculate with 0.25 accuracy on the move, the BAR goes down to 1.2 DPS. So I assume balance team screwed up that part and the moving accuracy is indeed 0.25. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Base Destroyers 15 Mar 2022, 09:39 AM If you report them, Relic says they look into it and ban them. I don't know if that really happens, but that's what they claim In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: vickers k15 Mar 2022, 09:37 AM Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2022, 00:29 AMVipper Copied from another thread since it seem to suit here better. It is my opinion that the original concept was bad providing simply more of the same in the form of another LMG the implementation might have fault but that is another story. Actually I had suggested a different weapons types in the bren/Vickers-k as an implantation of an early hammer/anvil choice that would make the anvil/hammer have added dept. I fully agree, two LMGs are fairly redundant. Not necessarily unbalanced, but boring and badly designed. Now we have a weapon that does not really work on your main squad, so it became pretty useless instead of boring. Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2022, 00:29 AMVipper that is inaccurate they get a combat bonus at vet 1 Technically true. The bonus only applies to their Stens afaik. Putting weapons on them effectively reduces the veterancy bonus. REs don't get any offensive vet combat bonus Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2022, 00:29 AMVipper If you thing that R.E. are not good fighting squads I suggest you check tight ropes video playing high level 1vs1 using mobile assault and basically having commands and R.E.R as infatry. As your own post already suggests, nothing in this strategy will work for the special weapons commander, which is the one we are talking about here. Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2022, 00:29 AMVipper This is where we disagree. Having unit that are good at certain ranges is good for creating rock/paper/scissors mechanics but but that does not mean that mixing weapon that "do not synergize well" will automatically lead to a weak squad. For instance, the M1 are mid do close semi automatic rifles (carbines) and M1919 is an LMG that do not synezise "well" together. On the other hand double LMG riflemen proved to be too strong because they had all the advantages of the long range squads without being vulnerable to close combat with the 3 m1. (and there are other examples) To sum up: imo the design of weapon with different profiles imo is better than 2 types of LMG that are equal in cost efficiency but one cost more. The implementation is a different story. (The changes of removing the ability to donate weapons and the easier access to unit where also good changes, since in the old implementation it was a nightmare to balance the m3) I don't know about the reasoning back then and also the game was surely very different at the time. From what I see, the USF LMG is almost a MG42 clone. Obviously having two of them will give you horrendous firepower, especially on a 5 men squad. But again, this is missing the point: A weapon with supposedly high moving accuracy for assaults does not synergize with a long range squad that basically constantly gets his out of cover penalty applied when moving. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: vickers k14 Mar 2022, 23:48 PM Jump back to quoted post14 Mar 2022, 23:05 PMVipper One has to keep in mind that Vicker K in not an upgrade for tommies is an ability available to the M3 halftruck and can be used in different sqauds. The main options are RE, IS, and the potential one officer squad. On the officer the Vickers does well and fits well. But the fact that the Vickers comes via the M3 and not as an upgrade for the officer shows how it is intended to be used on other squads. REs are not good fighting squads with their first and only combat bonus coming at vet3. I know you have argued for putting LMGs on them in the past, but I don't think it is an efficient use of munitions at all. Also the only way to somehow see a point in it is if you lock yourself to anvil for heavy sappers. Jump back to quoted post14 Mar 2022, 23:05 PMVipper Now without accurate stat or sufficient test is rather hard to respond to the question if it worth using on IS. If rhe information provided by patch notes is correct and it has DPS at ranges 0/10/15/20/25/30/35: 12.53/10.81/8.44/7.13/5.99/4.93/3.97 I would point out that the weapon better than Bren with a DPS 4.14/5.09/5.56/5.81/5.97/6.39/6.86 even at ranges close to 25 so it better MID to close but probably only worth the extra munition if used in ranges under 15. Even with bad moving DPS it still better than Bren that has 0 moving DPS. At the end of the day Vikcer K is not designed around IS and I do not like what OP is actually suggesting which is replacing the Vicker-k on m3 with Bren. If one wants Bren for his IS one can get them by unlocking the weapon rack instead of calling the M3. I am quite sure that the DPS in the patch notes are wrong, because I have seen them being wrong before when the exact changes were stated. No one knows how they calculate them, but let's assume they are roughly what we need to expect. By pure stats, yes, the Vickers K is okay. Bear in mind it costs way more than the Bren, so it having an edge should actually be the case. My point is that the Vickers does not fit IS. IS cannot use its benefits due to the out of cover bonus. If the Vickers is not designed around upgrading your main unit, there is not a big reason to get it in the first place, thus the design is broken. RE spam is far from viable, and we actually have indication that the Vickers potentially does not have the stats it should have. Regardless, as UKF, you're stuck with Sections, and the M3 providing the Vickers to your Sections is not helpful. Fact is also that Enfields are long range weapons, even more so than Grenadier Kar98s. They synergize best with other long range weapons. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Is Vickers K moving accuracy is really 60%?14 Mar 2022, 23:14 PM Jump back to quoted post14 Mar 2022, 21:49 PMVipper Are talking about the DPS of BAR in riflemen hands or Tommies hands with their out of cover penalty? We also need to keep in mind that Vicker K primarily balanced around Raid section (and secondary Sappers) and not in for tommies. The out of cover penalty is indeed not factored in into the 4 DPS. What were the modifiers here? If Vickers K is balanced only to Raid Sections but not to the M3 handing out weapons, it's just another testimony on how badly this new Vickers K concept has been though about... In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Is Vickers K moving accuracy is really 60%?14 Mar 2022, 18:43 PM Burst duration is down for sure, which is also normal. But just judging by the fact that the models take ages to drop and no real damage is done while firing, the accuracy modifier must be pretty low too I assume. Judging by the fact that the first 3 models dropped in roughly 30 second intervals, the Vickers K seems to have 1.3 DPS on the move at range ~20. A BAR at this range has roughly 4 DPS according to my sheet. Balance team must have made a very bad mistake while trying to copy stats back then. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: vickers k14 Mar 2022, 18:32 PM Jump back to quoted post14 Mar 2022, 18:29 PMleithianz BTW, can anybody tell me how to upload local pic directly to the coh2.org? Do I really have to use other site to upload & paste link to it? Click on your profile, "My Files", then upload. Copy the link and paste it into your post. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: vickers k14 Mar 2022, 18:24 PM Jump back to quoted post14 Mar 2022, 18:17 PMVipper Where they in cover while moving? If you are going to do the test on Vicker K about accuracy I would advice you to test with another type of infatry that does not have penalties like the raid sections/officer. For finding out the stats that would be good. However the whole point of this thread was OP saying the Vickers K is not worth it on IS. If Leithianz's test is correct, it just shows how badly IS with Vickers K perform on the move, which completely contradicts the design point of the weapon in the first place. Unless you're talking about 4v4 games at 40+ min, assuming there to always be cover for negating the out of cover penalty is creating a completely artificial point. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: vickers k14 Mar 2022, 15:15 PM I don't own the commander, but putting a mid-close range weapon with on-the-move bonus onto a squad that gets out of cover nerfs sounds like quite a bad idea. Mixing it with a Bren that cannot fire on the move makes it even worse. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Make Multiplayer COH3 free to play to save the franchise.9 Mar 2022, 14:44 PM Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2022, 14:15 PMBasedSecretary Allow me to reiterate: a game is considered "alive" if and only if the following two criteria are met: Waiting times, as you have said, are low. The matches that occur within that matchmaking process are as fair as possible. Let's say the first criterion stands (which it does not but whatever). The second criterion is so out of reach for COH2, that it's like a dream. For further info, check out my other threads and Rosbone's. Every match that is produced by COH2's matchmaker would be consider an outlier by all the other major games' matchmakers. Waiting times are usually (2v2 and 3v3) below 5 minutes from my experience when playing with friends. Most of the games we get are also decently balanced I would say, with some one sided games every now and then. I can't fully speak for pure random games and 4v4, since I play both of these rarely. However, we'd need to know the percentage of really unbalanced games. They surely happen, and in 4v4 more than anywhere else. But they also happen in highly populated games that have tens of thousands of players. I can tell by from playing rocket league. Most matches are really good there, but even with a large player base, sometimes the other team is just a decent chunk better/worse than mine. The only estimate that we can make is look at game lengths. Top200 1v1 is probably the closest base line info that we have to perfectly balanced games. Still, 11,6% of games end with 10 minutes or less, indicating these are either drops/technical issues or unbalanced match making. 10-20 minute games happen fairly frequently, too. Since they also happen often in the top200 games, I'd assume these are rather lost games due to bad playing or one player honestly surrendering than bad matchmaking. Interestingly though, all 4v4 games have a ratio of 13,9% of <10 minute games. 3v3 has 13,4%; 2v2 12,8%. 2v2 top200 11,6%. And all 1v1 has 14,7%. Percentages are not vastly different and some could also be explained by drops, afks and technical issues that have not much to do with the match maker. Either this, or the "metric" I chose here is nonsense in the first place. In: COH2 Gameplay