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Thread: su76 need adjustments16 Sep 2019, 20:42 PM The barrage for SU76 is so useful. Counters MGs, guys in buildings, stationary targets mostly efficient. In Concentrated/Defensive areas in general is definitely a great counter. Sometimes it does more than enough damage for you units to finish them off perfectly like countering MGs. It is still a great support unit though I prefer to use T70 more often since that is a beast unit against AI. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Maxim Overperforming16 Sep 2019, 20:34 PM Jump back to quoted post16 Sep 2019, 16:50 PMSander93 The M2HB most definitely has a deathloop, at least on retreat. If the model carrying the gun dies, the gun drops to the ground and another model has to pick it up. Unlike the HMG 42/34 and Vickers, that simply "teleport" to other models. It happens to all MGs even to the AT support weapons. Teleport thing happens sometimes but not all the time. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Thoughts on OKWs Flak Half Track16 Sep 2019, 15:53 PM Jump back to quoted post16 Sep 2019, 14:07 PMT.R. Stormjäger Does the Puma render them useless? If not why would the Jagdpanzer 38? It’s not a SU85, it has lower damage, pen and range (I think range). It’s Iike a Puma, except it trades mobility and stun shot for range and camouflage. I see. That would be a nice idea. Jagdpanzer 38 (also known as "Hetzer") would be a nice vehicle to have as a combo. Replace the IHT. Would be a good combo. Hetzer should be something alike SU-76. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Maxim Overperforming16 Sep 2019, 13:48 PM Jump back to quoted post16 Sep 2019, 13:31 PMSatania McDowell It has been said many times, u can't make maxim 4-man due to the deathloop already making it essentially 4-man The only reason why is because it does not suppress well enough. Making a 4 man with an increase in supression would be balanced. Deadthloop would no longer cease to exist. It would be similar to USF 50cal MG. That does not have a deathloop at all and that is fine for a 4 man suppressing well. Would definitely be fine for Maxim too to be 4 man. Btw, all models for MG have the same received accuracy! In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Thoughts on OKWs Flak Half Track16 Sep 2019, 13:45 PM Jump back to quoted post16 Sep 2019, 13:39 PMT.R. Stormjäger Jagdpanzer 38 plus FlakHT plus Leig would synergize perfectly. Flak HT provides mobile suppression and flank support. Jagdpanzer 38 is fast to reposition and fire on light vehicles, while also having camouflage. It zones out T70s and protects the flak HT. Leigs punish players who go hard on support weapons to zone out your vehicles. Would you not say that Jagdpanzer is too early. It just the same as getting early an SU 85. It would counter every enemy lights and wont give them much a chance use them at all effectively. Renders every allied lights as useless. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: su76 need adjustments16 Sep 2019, 13:41 PM Jump back to quoted post16 Sep 2019, 13:32 PMBlueKnight Puma has far better mobility than SU76 and better rate of fire, has turret and more damage at vet 3 than SU76 which allows it to 4-hit-kill mediums, while lone SU76 always needs 5 or 6 hits depending on vet. It has very powerful turret lock shot that allows it to solo mediums in direct combat (engagement in a vacuum). It also kills snipers easily with the coaxial, self-spots, has defensive smoke and imho is the best LV AT platform in the game atm. Increasing the dmg bonus of SU76 when vet3 so it deals 160 dmg is not unreasonable, especially considering the late timing of SU76 compared to Puma. Vet 3 SU76 should definitely have 160 damage like Puma Vet 3. That is definitely fine by me but it vets faster in contrast to Puma since it penetrates far better and more often. Even SU76 can counter sniper at range with barrage if lucky. Dont have to get close SU76 has better range at the cost of mobility. Trade off. Rate of fire is practically similar or the same around 4 seconds with having minor +-0.3 difference. Barrage is more handy in situations since there is more opportunity windows to use it effectively in contrast. Smoke for Puma since its penetration is worse. So yeah, those are my thoughts. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Thoughts on OKWs Flak Half Track16 Sep 2019, 13:30 PM Jump back to quoted post16 Sep 2019, 13:22 PMT.R. Stormjäger Well FlakHT&Unit 2 vs Luchs&Puma obviously means any unit other than Luchs&Puma, which could be any light vehicle or Ostheer light vehicle. Stuka HT, Opel Blitz, 222, 250, 251, Jagdpanzer 38 are all possibilities. Definitely wont be much a combo with any of those mentioned units except Jagdpanzer but it would be mostly likely be unbalanced a unit to add in addition. Maybe combo 250. or Just replace OKW FHT with Osteehr 250 Halftrack doctrinal. It does a better job anyway even in suppressing. Plays more a supportive role and is definitely much more viable. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Thoughts on OKWs Flak Half Track16 Sep 2019, 13:20 PM Jump back to quoted post16 Sep 2019, 13:07 PMT.R. Stormjäger Can you actually read? Where did I suggest putting the flak HT on mechanized? A couple pages back I suggested putting the Jagdpanzer 38 on the BGHQ as the best solution, to make it a choice between BGHQ and MechHQ same as Soviet T1 vs T2. As for then flak HT there is only one solution for you: git gud As you stated. "The only thing you can do is put a strong vehicle in BGHQ to make the FlakHT&Unit 2 combo viable vs Luchs&Puma." Cuz that is how you intended the message. Combo FHT with Puma instead. Definitely not FHT & Luchs as a combo, would not make sense. Otherwise what other unit are you referencing as a "Unit 2" combo. What other unit can you combo, duh. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Thoughts on OKWs Flak Half Track16 Sep 2019, 13:16 PM Jump back to quoted post16 Sep 2019, 13:03 PMBlueKnight You are super stubborn and clearly don't use your flak HT as a support to your inf, or your army composition/positioning is bad, or you misuse it some other way if it has to solo M20 etc. Blvckdream and I both gave you advice on when it's best to use it. Surprisingly enough, we both gave you the same advice, which would suggest it's not just an opinion of an individual but a common knowledge. Please, show some humility and practise more with it, it's a synergy weapon. Your faust platform and Spios should always be somewhere around to give it a quick repair or snare enemy lights. You can also use it as a bait for stuart or T70 if you have rak/mines around. Flak HT struggles most when enemy has AT gun or AEC, this is why it's most useful vs SOV T1 and USF LT opening, both of which are good vs OKW. You are block-headed, you dont read the messages and understand what the intended message is. Dont ignore and create some bullshit that does not make sense or does not even follow up. I use it that way and have been, using it as a support unit. I am stating its performance wise as I had always mentioned, not how to use it. It is not meant to solo. It is meant to support which it does NOT seem to provide as much as it should. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: su76 need adjustments16 Sep 2019, 13:11 PM SU76 has far better penetration than Puma and better range by 10, same damage as Puma. SU76 is the earliest TD anyone can get. It has a useful 6 shot barrage which is very useful against infantry. It is not meant to deal with heavies at all. It is a light tank though it will be most definitely having better chances than any other light tank available in game. In: COH2 Balance