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Thread: Why osttruppen is OP,Conscript is not OP?26 Nov 2020, 14:05 PM your right just get a t70 and your fine, too bad your basepinned by then by superior Mg42, osttruppen that can 1vs1 your cons FHT Pgs etc In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Why osttruppen is OP,Conscript is not OP?26 Nov 2020, 13:28 PM i dont even know why im answering this. Imagine soviet would have 3 min schock and 4 min flak and then we can talk about what the problem with osttruppen is. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Will they address Panzergrens in the new patch?26 Nov 2020, 11:15 AM ok you wanna talk power creep? So what unit got buffed in the first 3 min to justify the PGs arriving at that point? USF got a small buff on riflemen and Sov got nothing (besides SVTS). And guess what try stop 3min pgs when all you have is conscripts (you cant) maxim just gets countered by a vehilce of ostheer choice leaving dshka the only option. Brits were always an different issue. But please stop talking like 3 min pgs are fine vs soviet, becouse guess what they are not. They basically removed soviet from competive 1vs1 As long as ostheer will be able to skip t1 and go PGs directly they will always remain a problem (unless they nerf their performace which i dont think is a good idea) In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Will they address Panzergrens in the new patch?26 Nov 2020, 10:44 AM 100 mp delay will not kill Pgs i dont know where this idea came from. Pgs were a bad choice when t2 was 200mp becouse you coudnt afford them. Besides Pgs the combined arms PGs get might need to be looked into (it becomes pretty nasty with the standart vet1 recc acc buff) Otherwise im not sure if PGs need to be in t2 back, but they certainly need either t1 or t2 being build in order to stop them from arriving at 3 min. The problem with them is that at 3 min, they slaughter allied infantry at every range, there isnt a good rang to fight them becouse allies are more close range oriented (exept brits) Vs penals you can at least sit in green cover. Comparisons to penals are misleading, since a) penal sacrfices early map presence and easy acces to At gun b)penal Ptrs becomes obsolete when mediums hit the field, while Pgs can somewhat still function with schrecks and thus enable t2 skips c) bundle nade > satchel In: COH2 Balance
Thread: First Quarter 2021 Balance Patch25 Nov 2020, 12:15 PM Jump back to quoted post25 Nov 2020, 12:03 PMT.R. Stormjäger Hit the dirt for Grenadiers seems a bit too much like a straight damage nerf. What I would do is give them a more specific hit the dirt, maybe called “Deploy in position”, which would lock grenadiers in position on the ground for 10 secs minimum (can only retreat in that time not get out of it until 10secs finish), and would complement their long range role by maybe increasing their weapon range by 5, 7 or 10 and in turn giving them a minimum range of 5-10 (can’t engage squads until out of that range). Seems more fair, usable, better synergizing with their role and adds a nice defensive nature to them. Well i suggested the guards hit the dirt (i think fireing position its called) that one gives an offensive buff after like 2 sec. I totally agree that cons hit the dirt woudnt help grens at all In: COH2 Balance
Thread: First Quarter 2021 Balance Patch25 Nov 2020, 11:45 AM I will just add some ideas into how to buff grens/cons Ppsh without making them OP. I suggest following change LMG42 grens vet 1 (or 2 if its too op early game) now unlocks some sort of "hit the dirt"(only functions when upgrated with LMG42). It functions similar to the guards ability. Grens get a dps boost, but become completly stationary. Exact numbers must be tweeked might even add an rec acc nerf (that might go away with vet) so its only usefull when your in green cover. That way grens will have a way effectivly trading rifles at vet3 when they charge them frontally. G43 grens Cost of the upgrate to 60 ammo, gives a recc acc buff at vet1 (or 2). 5-10%. Cons Vet 3 is toned down a little (recc acc by 5% for example) This buff is added to the ppsh combat package. That way PPsh become more inline with the SVT and 7 Men upgrate + a slight nerf to cons 7 men which seem to outtrade just a little too well at vet3 What do you guys think? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: WC 2020 aftermath WC5123 Nov 2020, 17:55 PM This unit needs nerfs, it basically shuts down OKW completly. Changes required: Reduce hp so mine can oneshot it and it dies to 2 fausts Reduce dmg to sov sc level Reduce range Then this unit becomes like a sov sc with more utility which is fine IMO not the stupid I snipe evrything at max range unit In: Lobby
Thread: World Championships is/was stale as old bread23 Nov 2020, 17:06 PM Jump back to quoted post23 Nov 2020, 15:48 PMProtos Angelus Sensible nerfs that would make WC51 more balanced. Agreed. i would go even further and copy paste the dmg of the sov armored car. The Dmg output on the WC51 seems much strongeer than on the m3 (more like M20 level) In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Why Relic Needs to Stop Listening to the Community23 Nov 2020, 17:04 PM i need to agree with GiaA. You cant balance around a rank 1000ish player who only blobs straight into machineguns. I also hate when peaple say the community balance team has only dumbt down factions. It has addad a lot of fun commders and abilities we woudnt have, peaple forget that the current units woudnt even had existed in the first place. They didnt remove that much but added so much more (Jäger command, commisar at overwatch, you name it) This basically improved the variety of units for casual players!!! It also created some balance issues which will hopefully be adressed in the future. But Balance is for competive play, so weaker players should instead just enjoy the fun units and abilities they added into the game, instead of crying over broken designs that were no fun playing against even on low level (Sim city i look at you!!) In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: World Championships is/was stale as old bread23 Nov 2020, 14:37 PM Jump back to quoted post23 Nov 2020, 14:30 PMTomDRV Uneducated suggestion alert - Reduce Ostruppen to 5 man Then completely rework the WC51 because a utility truck being an aggressive front line unit is just silly. - Make WC51 non-doc & put in battalion CP. - Move forward retreat deploy ability from Major to WC51. Also add weapon racks when deployed for forward equipping (like forward assembly) - Remove .50cal upgrade USF can deploy it as a forward retreat and still use the Major aggressively. Also increases the penalty to USF for having forward retreat destroyed because it costs fuel not just a 3 man squad. USF now have a non-doc infantry transport for those off-meta games. Mechanized will still be viable without it. not sure about the wc51 change Ostruppen to 5 men might actually work! Then you could add the 6th men with vet and actually buff their scaling so they can actually compete with vet 3 grens in the lategame In: COH2 Gameplay