M10 lack luster and stupid to replace M36 for USF. What will USF use against Panther spam?
I agree with M10 not being as good as they should be. A pz4 can give it a big fight and we are not forgetting M10 are TDs. A reasonable buff to M10 and making them stock sound very interesting indeed.
A panther spam is rare in 1v1 and involves a lot of time, a lot of time that must have been used to force the other player out of his comfort zone.
I would like to fork the 2panthers vs 1 M36 topic, but its true, M36 cant stand a chance there, so is a panther vs 2 jacksons. The problem with number vs quality is being offset there by the amount of hits a tank is able to take. If M36 become glasscannons they will suffer from double tank assaults, that an axis can pull off with a Pz4 and a stug. If M36 become glasscannon they will loose against panthers and thats not ideal too. If panthers receive a nerf altogether with M36 IMO could solve many other issues on the TD department.
Imagine calling for m36 nerfs in a patch where everygame has turned into 15min tiger rush
I would go the otherway personally and buff FF to m36 price point
Powercreep, is that you?
Of course is better to buff the crap out of the allied TD to stratosphere because M36 are not OP, its funnier that way, axis lost the ww2 they must also loose every game.
You could have started with this, that would have been enough to explain yourself. So here we are, USF shouldn't be able to fight anything above pz4. That's your words.
I dare you to find a single quote of me saying that. Otherwise dont put words in my mouth since you dont understand what i said.
One thing is to be able to fight off Pz4 and above and other one is to displace, seek and destroy for no reason that "it must be that way" excuse.
At the end your words sound more like a rant to me than an analysis of the situation: USF need to be nerfed, Axis tools are all bad or weak etc...
I never said that and you sound like a ranting person now. But now i wont waste my time explaining myself anymore.
If flanking was an option in this game, don't you think people would actually been flanking with their jackson or M10 or T34 or Cromwell or sherman? I mean, if already maps were allowing flanking that would be great but the game design itself punish flanking at the moment, this plus the lack of side armor making flanking like diving in some occasion.
Hell, the game is already more friendly with diving than flanking, some factions have tanks with armor, almost secure to pen, health, smoke and warspeed/blitzkrieg to secure a kill and still having good chances to retreat alive.
You miss two points and i dont meant to be personal now. First one, the game was intended to find flanking options as a main mechanic, in between patches that mechanic was lost or became too hard to pull, so using the "wouldnt people do the obvious logic" strategy is not an argument, since people dont flank because M36 are able to pen frontally and on the move at the highest stock heavy axis tank (Pnter), why would people do something as complicated as flanking and risking their units when a single straigh shot is good enough and no risk involved? Answer that first and then you will know why woulnt people flank to win tank fights if that werent an option.
And you want to force super squeezy tanks to flank heavy with no armor, no smoke and no pen (need to pay extra munition to be allowed to pen). Well at least M10s have speed god save us!!
Yeah no other USF unit can provide smoke /s only raw powercreep M36 can bring liberty to fascist COH2...
Again simple logic against complex setups are just a bad excuse, if the oponent is ready to fight of any diving tank, DONT DO IT. Not even a single KT is able to withstand a well placed defense. Why then would M36?