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They didnt even buff the ostwinds penetration. It shouldnt be any better against t34s than it was before the patch. There's no legit complaint here

Its ROF was buffed so now it does deal more DPM to an enemy tank than before, so there is a change. However the damage it deals in a realistic scenario (with the units moving) is pretty insignificant even against the cheapest/worst (armored) medium in the game.

So it can engage any enemy arty from near absolute safety?
120 is way to much range on that ability. 100 range is worth trying.

You're right, I confused the 120mm mortar's caliber with its range while typing that. The GrW 34's Counter Barrage should get 100 range (not up to 120) so it outranges the standard mortars by a bit and also has a chance to fire on the 120mm mortar.

Penetration and damage obviously but if thats too hard for you do this:
Try pitting 2 Centaurs vs P4 and have them fight frontally at med distance then compare T-34 vs 2 Ostwinds

I literally told you that
1) Ostwind performance versus medium tanks might need to be looked at
2) The 2x stationary Ostwind versus stationary T-34 isn't a representative test because it's an unrealistic scenario, and in the more realistic scenario of both parties moving the Ostwind suffers from a much more drastic drop in DPM
3) You brought up the Ostwind's "performance versus everything" and regarding that I told you that it's performance versus infantry is now equal to the Centaur at best and that their raw stats in this regard are uncomparable.

I'm not saying the new Ostwind's performance (in numbers) vs medium tanks is not a concern but:


this test is not very representative because the units are stationary.

Compared to the T-34, the Ostwind suffers from worse accuracy on the move.

If the T-34 pulls back and the Ostwinds chase (which is the realistic scenario), the Ostwinds' DPM will drop more drastically than the T-34's and the T34 will actually win quite easily from what I can tell.

If you set up a scenario with the T-34 going backwards and the two Ostwinds chasing, you'll notice they'll barely do any damage to it.

I never understood the concept of "Counter Barrage".

What is the purpose of this ability?

Can anyone explain what it does specifically and its benefits.

Counter Barrage automatically targets enemy indirect units that start firing within the mortar/ability's range.

Counter Barrage uses special stats. Compared to normal barrage it has the following advantages:
- No micro as the unit will engage automatically;
- Low (no) response time: it will start aiming and firing the very second the enemy indirect unit starts firing. This works the same for LeFH18: as soon as something like a Katusha starts the barrage ability (while still aiming, before firing the rockets) the counterbarrage will detect and start aiming/firing;
- Mortar Counter Barrage gets -1.25s reload in between shells compared to a regular barrage so its ROF is a lot faster. Should guarantee to out-DPS the enemy mortar.
- The LeFH18 Counter Barrage gets increased damage (from 160 to 200) so it has more chance to kill enemy artillery.


The reason it doesn't work very well: the range on the Counter Barrage is the same as a regular barrage (both 80). Generally speaking you have your mortar behind your troops, while the enemy mortar shells your frontline troops at their max range. This means they are likely never within your Counter Barrage range.