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Thread: Wehr weak penetration18 Oct 2019, 14:20 PM Jump back to quoted post18 Oct 2019, 14:06 PMKatitof And then, there is comet and M4C sherman. The M4C has better AI than the Cromwell. The Comet's a jumped up T-34/85 for the price of an IS-2. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Give universal carrier the 222 treatment18 Oct 2019, 14:18 PM Jump back to quoted post18 Oct 2019, 14:08 PMGarrett Because OKW has so many non-doctrinal flamer units... you alles fanboys should play some axis to get a grip of the game. OKW's mainline infantry is a non-doctrinal garrison clearer. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Stug Vet18 Oct 2019, 14:16 PM Jump back to quoted post18 Oct 2019, 07:07 AMIncendiaryRounds I think we should make a poll on the vet 1 bonus being AP rounds because TWP is a literal piece of garbage. You'd rather fire normally because it takes forever to load. Relic/bal team nerfed it to shit and left it there. That or some sort of HE shot. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Give universal carrier the 222 treatment18 Oct 2019, 14:05 PM Increasing the WASP's health would make the 222 take a little longer to kill it. It'd still get splattered by medium armour up. Maybe a smoke canister instead, unlocked after either the WASP or Vickers is purchased? That'd help the UC to survive throughout the whole game, and early on it you could use it to blind MGs, something UKF desperately needs now it can't just overwhelm everything with the Great Section Horde. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Wehr weak penetration18 Oct 2019, 14:02 PM Given how often tank battles come down to 'do I roll a lucky last shot before the enemy tank retreats behind its ATGs' I'd be in favour of deflection damage. Probably only 25%, but enough to mitigate those absurd strings of bounces on a 160 HP tank you sometimes get. It'd also keep medium armour relevant. I doubt Relic would support such a big change at this point though. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Wehr weak penetration18 Oct 2019, 13:56 PM Jump back to quoted post18 Oct 2019, 13:51 PMgbem well its cost is due to the fact that it is an excellent tank hunter on top of its anti infantry capability... but it isnt a dedicated tank hunter as its the only tank hunter with significant anti infantry power... hence why i use the term "premium medium"... but in no way is it a dedicated tank hunter... as i said this is really just semantics... i could call it a "space unicorn" and it wont change a single stat or characteristic of the unit at all... Premium mediums are a specific class of unit though: they're more expensive medium generalists with better stats. The Panther isn't a generalist. It's a weird unit that sits between a medium tank and a dedicated tank destroyer. It can force infantry off points, but you'd never build one as a bleed tool like you would a Panzer IV. The only real parallel to it is the Stuart. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Brits in 1v1 is a joke18 Oct 2019, 13:50 PM UKF has a history of being a faction with massive holes in it that relies on a few batshit OP crutch units. What I don't understand is why Relic thinks UKF can survive without these overpowered crutches and without one of the three pillars of the game's infantry combat: indirect fire. Jump back to quoted post18 Oct 2019, 11:37 AMTiger Baron This topic is exactly why the Lend Lease Assault Regiment exists... LLAR fills the holes in the roster, but then you're playing a complete faction against a complete faction with a commander. UKF needs a nondoctrinal indirect fire solution that's viable in 1v1. Else they're playing Rock Paper Scissors without Paper. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Wehr weak penetration18 Oct 2019, 13:42 PM Jump back to quoted post18 Oct 2019, 13:35 PMgbem though i may not remember the test results but i do remember its AI being outclassed only by the T-34-76/85 M4A3 and M4C... the rest were either comparable to or worse even with the maingun on... If we take Range 10 as a benchmark, the Panther has a total of about 25 DPS on its MGs. The Puma and the StuG both have about 11 DPS on their MGs, and all three vehicles have shitty anti-infantry performance on their main guns. When you consider the Panther's just over twice the price of a StuG, they've got similar anti-infantry firepower for the same cost. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Ranger weapon choices18 Oct 2019, 13:29 PM Two Bazookas one BAR is actually a pretty clever idea. When you think about it, a four BAR Ranger Squad isn't that much of an improvement over a three BAR Ranger squad. It'll still win the fight, the enemy squad will retreat and you'll take the territory. Similarly, a tank's going to retreat from a 2 Bazooka Ranger Squad just as surely as it'll retreat from a 3 Bazooka Ranger Squad. Going two bazookas one BAR lets your Ranger squad fill its AT duties and contest enemy infantry. It won't be as good as a Thompson Squad or a Triple Zook Squad at either role, but there's a lot of value in versatility in 1v1. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Wehr weak penetration18 Oct 2019, 13:19 PM Jump back to quoted post18 Oct 2019, 13:12 PMJohnSmith We're diverging from the topic with endless arguments about schematics and trying to define what exactly the Panther is - which has been done to death in all previous threads about similar topics. Why not get back to the topic at hand instead of nitpicking on things completely out of context? but how would these topics last 11 pages without wild tangents On the actual subject matter, Ostheer's vehicles do their jobs. Many of Ostheer and OKW's vehicles favour damage output over penetration, but that's usually to their advantage given the generally lower armour values of the Allied roster. For heavy tanks both factions have the non-doctrinal Panther, which has solid penetration and the speed & durability to flank and use near-penetration values. The SU-85 and Firefly have better penetration, but they have to fight at long range and generally face more heavily armoured targets than the Panther does. The Jackson is a monster but has to be because USF has no other nondoctrinal option. Jump back to quoted post18 Oct 2019, 13:13 PMgbem semantics aside the panther is perfectly capable of killing infantry quite efficiently... (since its 3 MGs are equivalent to the T-34s MG)... to treat it like the dedicated TDs and lumping it with them while ignoring its anti infantry capability is unrealistic at best... That's not the point. If you strapped six .50 cals to a Jackson, it'd still be the USF tank destroyer. How similar it is to other TDs doesn't change the fact that Ostheer uses it as a tank destroyer. In: COH2 Balance