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Thread: Two-Step PGren Upgrade28 Nov 2019, 16:04 PM Jump back to quoted post27 Nov 2019, 18:22 PMCODGUY Poor OST doesn't have a light vehicle. It just means they rush a medium faster than everyone else and have more AT abilites than any other faction. Not really seeing the problem here? Ostheer doesn't need a light tank. What it could do with is a reasonably cheap way to fight a light tank, and its current options are all big investments. All I'm suggesting is making their handheld AT more granular. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Two-Step PGren Upgrade27 Nov 2019, 15:38 PM Jump back to quoted post27 Nov 2019, 09:57 AMVipper Actually Ostheer should have access to a redesigned 221 that would be cheaper and have lower DPS vs infatry but higher penetration so that it would act as soft counter to those micro lights. Isn't the 221 currently 220 MP 15 FU? You can't really go much cheaper than that. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Two-Step PGren Upgrade27 Nov 2019, 01:52 AM Jump back to quoted post27 Nov 2019, 01:03 AMthekingsown10 I like this idea as well but there should be an option later game to remove them and replace with shreks for a cost. That's a key part of the proposal. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Stationary PANTHER - Poll26 Nov 2019, 23:26 PM Medium tanks are never going to thrive in team games when the map pool is full of long, laney maps like Rails and Metal and Alliance of Defiance. It's always going to be the domain of anti-tank guns, indirect fire and long range vehicles. The only real way to fix this is to add wider maps to the map pool, but the community is so resistant to learning new maps and so abusive towards the people who make them that it's no surprise mappers aren't willing volunteer their time to make new content. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Double Μ1919s still possible?26 Nov 2019, 23:14 PM It's possible the same way double LMG42 is possible: pick them up when they're dropped. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Two-Step PGren Upgrade26 Nov 2019, 23:06 PM Jump back to quoted post26 Nov 2019, 20:28 PMAcidfreak But penals ptrs cost 75 muni IIRC. Penal PTRS rifles have the AT satchel too. Snares are a huge deal. Jump back to quoted post26 Nov 2019, 20:28 PMAcidfreak And then you're stuck as well with a squad whose AT ability becomes obsolete as heavy tanks kick in. The idea is AT Rifle PGrens can upgrade to Panzershrecks by paying the remaining 50 munitions. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Two-Step PGren Upgrade26 Nov 2019, 16:51 PM Jump back to quoted post26 Nov 2019, 16:22 PMWiderstreit Why not Panzerbüchse for Pioneers? I suppose you could do that. That approach has the benefit of being on a very cheap squad, but the drawback that you're then stuck with an AT rifle squad after AT rifles become ineffective. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Two-Step PGren Upgrade26 Nov 2019, 14:26 PM Jump back to quoted post26 Nov 2019, 13:55 PMSir Edgelord And yes, if it's an AT RIFLE, how hard will be for them to hit infantry with them? Because if those are going to be as inaccurate as the Shreck that's not going to be any better, except for being more early. I'm thinking something very similar to the Penal PTRS. As for them just being worse Shrecks, that's the idea. The two AT rifles are meant to be loosely equivalent to one Panzershreck. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Two-Step PGren Upgrade26 Nov 2019, 13:40 PM Jump back to quoted post26 Nov 2019, 13:37 PMSneakEye I like it! Though the Panzerbüchse needs to be tested carefully, because weapons in the campaign are often stronger than in multiplayer. You'd want to rebalance it, yes. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Two-Step PGren Upgrade26 Nov 2019, 13:25 PM Ostheer's got no light tank. That's part of its design, and means it needs to field infantry counters to light vehicles. The best one it has against lights is Panzershreck PGrens, but these are 100 munitions. If you're on the back foot, that can be a problem. If I recall correctly, Relic's previous solution to this was to make the Panzerschreck upgrade two parts: you'd buy one Panzershreck for half the cost, then you'd buy the next. This created an inevitable problem of one-Panzershreck PGren blobs, so they got bundled together. But that ability to buy lesser AT for less munitions and fully upgrade later was a neat feature that could be worth bringing back. What if PGrens could get two Panzerbusche AT rifles (they're in the campaign) for 50 munitions? They're much less effective than shrecks, but they do the job on the cheap. The PGrens could then upgrade those AT rifles to Panzerschrecks for another 50 munitions. In: COH2 Balance