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Thread: Tie Call-Ins to tech this patch7 May 2019, 21:03 PM Jump back to quoted post7 May 2019, 20:49 PMSander93 Yeah or we could not deliberately sabotage the game for some months just to watch what happens as the Axis factions crumble. Live playtesting is a valid strategy but only for finetuning and not for big changes, imo. I refuse to believe OKW just outright loses if they select any doctrine that's not Special Operations in a teamgame. If the Balance Team truly believes this needs to be delayed, they should delay the SU-76m and Ranger buffs too. Acknowledging stall-in strats are problem and then buffing them I just don't get. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Rebirth of the Sherman Jumbo idea.7 May 2019, 20:53 PM Jump back to quoted post7 May 2019, 20:02 PMVipper If it becomes a Panther clone then axis need TD like M36 and infatry like double bar Riflemen, but this seem a like "a grass is greener on the other side". Easy8 is a cost efficient tank and does not need buffs. You asked why, given a choice between a Panther and an M36 Jackson, a player would ever choose the Panther. I answered. If you'd asked why you'd ever go for an M36 if you had the Panther and M36 available, I'd have said the M36 is cheaper and has a longer range. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Grenade Model Cap7 May 2019, 20:48 PM Jump back to quoted post7 May 2019, 20:05 PMMr. Someguy I didn't even know capping was possible! Why aren't we using this more? Would love to see heavy hitters like the IS-2 actually have some accuracy, the reason it was nerfed was because it was a squad wipe machine. Let's give it some freakin' accuracy and just put a cap on it so it can actually hit tanks half decently without deleting Grenadier squads. Mines are capped and the new Ostwind is capped to killing a maximum of two models in one shot. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Tie Call-Ins to tech this patch7 May 2019, 20:40 PM Jump back to quoted post7 May 2019, 20:13 PMSander93 OKW's only viable strat for high level (2v2s,) 3v3s/4v4s is double Stuka into Command Panther and use it to transition into T4. The Jagdtiger at 15CPs would come way too late for that and offers nowhere near enough flexibility. This would be a problem for 2v2s as well. At least half the team games maps (2s, 3s and 4s) are completely unsuited for the Jagdtiger. I see plenty of other strats in high level 2v2 streams. That may be the strongest strat, but I very much doubt it's go Command Panther or lose. And if it is, that's even more reason to remove it. That way you can see what gets fallen back on in its absence and you know what needs adjusting when the next patch comes around. You can't judge how well the faction can stand until you take the crutch away. Trying to preempt all the knock-on effects using only preview mod data is going to lead to missteps. Look at what happened with JLI. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Universal carrier rework thread7 May 2019, 19:14 PM Jump back to quoted post7 May 2019, 19:09 PMSuperHansFan Current UC is rarely used apart from against OKW on open maps. WASP is like a unicorn vs Ost because of faust and MG42 with magic bullets more than enough to keep you off until 222 one minute later. Apparently the rationale for the armour nerf is because the live UC clobbers Ostheer. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Rebirth of the Sherman Jumbo idea.7 May 2019, 19:11 PM Guys, remember the Sherman Jumbo has a 75mm gun on it. This thing has the penetration of a basic Sherman. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Rebirth of the Sherman Jumbo idea.7 May 2019, 19:07 PM Jump back to quoted post7 May 2019, 17:50 PMVipper Why would anyone built it over the M36? Assuming the Easy Eight becomes a literal Panther clone? If a Panzer IV gets the first shot off, it's got a solid chance to beat a Jackson. A Panzer IV does not beat a Panther. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Tie Call-Ins to tech this patch7 May 2019, 18:57 PM Jump back to quoted post7 May 2019, 18:48 PMSander93 It really isn't. There are way more indirect consequences than you are imagining. For example, putting the Command Panther behind tech would destroy OKW's only competitive strat in high level team games. If these consequences really are this meta-shattering, that's even more reason to do it now. Given the very limited testing feedback preview patches get, you'll be just as blind then as now. This way, you'll be able to see what shape the meta takes. I honestly doubt this would eliminate OKW from high level teamgames, but if it does, you'll know why and what the second best strategy turns out to be. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Tie Call-Ins to tech this patch7 May 2019, 18:30 PM Jump back to quoted post7 May 2019, 17:29 PMSander93 It really isn't. Which is why. It is. Tying them tech isn't complex to implement. The only concern is that it'll might make them weak. And to that I say, so what? Heavy tanks being off-meta for a patch really isn't a big deal. If anything, it'll be a refreshing change. You tie them to tech now, you've have a whole patch cycle of live testing data to work out what, if any, buffs they need. That's far better than the limited balance preview patch participation feedback the balance team usually gets. Unless heavy tanks being off-meta is some sort of horrific catastrophe, I honestly can't see any advantage in delaying this. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Universal carrier rework thread7 May 2019, 18:28 PM The answer to me seems obvious. Tone down OKW's starting resources, give Volks snares from the start. This whole "OKW wipes the floor with any infantry build but a single ultralight snaps its spine" design is a proven failure. The OKW/SOV early game in particular is abominable for both sides. In: COH2 Balance