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"He is saying that one JLI can solo your units, which is quite obviously not true. "
With those really expensive infiltration grenades, yes of course they can. I've certainly lost Vet 3 IS to lower than Vet 5 JLI...
"To deal with allied terminator squads, all you have to do is go Elite Troops, then get 2 grens. Use a double stun grenade on them, and most of the time, it's a clean wipe."
Grens can too apparently.
Frankly the tests posted as evidence are both suspect and rather convincing of the opposite. |
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They're all within .04 of each other though, which is remarkable and surprises me. |
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" whilst "M" had to be written on a wounded man's forehead, to indicate if morphine had been applied"
Same as now. |
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OPs points are valid and back up my own experience.
Several points...
Unless the bug has been fixed ( which no-one is saying) your tests were very strange at best.
Even your tests only showed parity in the IS's strongest suit.
Your tests conclusively showed that IS get destroyed out of cover.
Your tests were not real game centric. Add in a grenade of some description or of mere moving and firing and the Tommies get chased out of cover and are destroyed quickly.
IS of such configuration are both expensive and unuseable in game. Feel free to build them however losing 60 or 120 MU per engagement is not a good use of resources. |
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I still think the OP has a valid point. Your tests showed the out of cover difference in effectiveness to be murderous and mere parity in heavy cover ( Bren dependant).
Given that the Axis has access to a wide variety of cheap and deadly grenades to chase Tommies out of cover with, and are clearly superior in the open, their Vet bonusses seem to be a bit over the top. |
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They always lose both Brens as the scoped Enfields have priority. Hence a 2 man IS 3 Vet squad never has Brens.
Unless this has been fixed, which no-one seems to be saying, then why didn't this happen in the tests above? Doesn't seem representative of in game. |
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No it doesn't always drop, but IS always lose their Brens on the death of models 4 and 3. That didn't happen in the tests above.
I'm wondering why as it makes a big difference in tests like that. |
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"i dont get this. how okw is suddenly op ? "
Vet didn't work properly before dude. |
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Also, as well as the Brens strangely not dropping, which would reduce the available firepower significantly in favour of the Axis, most of those tests showed the Brits at least 60 MU out of pocket.
Course due to the out of cover malus if any of those axis units got hold of a Bren then watch out Brits.
Out of interest why didn't the Brens drop as we see in game? |
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Something screwy going on there... In game once you lose the 4th Tommy you drop or lose a Bren too, same with the third leaving just your scoped Enfields. One of the Brens was last man standing and last 2 always had a Bren in your tests.
Either the drop bug has been fixed or the mod is slightly different.. I'm sure I've seen dropped Brens in game though since the patch. |
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