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Thread: Infiltration commandos 3 men at spawn19 Oct 2018, 21:03 PM Jump back to quoted post19 Oct 2018, 18:58 PMJae For Jett Need to add that I believe that Janne252 was the one who actually got the job done. I would hate not giving Credit where it is due: Well done Cruzz, Janne252 and Tightrope. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: About soviet shock troops in WWII19 Oct 2018, 20:57 PM Jump back to quoted post19 Oct 2018, 18:31 PMCrecer13 Shock troops existed only in the Tsarist Army. ... Shock troops is a general description of troops of many armies tasked to lead assaults and breach the enemy lines. Soviet units tasked with that role where not designed as "shock troops" according the Soviet army terminology but they had the role and they fall and the general category. Both in real life and in game "shock troops" are offensively orient troops thus the claim that "shocks are just as much defensive as offensive" is simply silly, untrue and misleading. PLS move on. In: Lobby
Thread: Infiltration commandos 3 men at spawn19 Oct 2018, 17:52 PM Jump back to quoted post19 Oct 2018, 17:47 PMJae For Jett Tightrope actually looked into getting the spreadsheet actual hosting, so no downloads needed now! https://coh2db.com/stats/ Nice! Well done Cruzz and Tightrope In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Infiltration commandos 3 men at spawn19 Oct 2018, 17:25 PM Jump back to quoted post19 Oct 2018, 16:20 PMGI John 412 I don’t really think they would be OP with Carbines to be honest. ..... try this: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7gwy65JLbSRMEJ3M2ZPandMMW8/view In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: About soviet shock troops in WWII19 Oct 2018, 17:20 PM Jump back to quoted post19 Oct 2018, 16:23 PMTobis Remember in the first mission in the campaign, when you are fighting in Stalingrad? Your only units are shock troops. Pretty commonly called the defense of Stalingrad. I would call Stalingrad urban, too. I am not sure what your point is but the following question will help us move on. Are shock troops in game offensive oriented units? Are Shock troops in real life offensive oriented units? If the answer is yes I have nothing to add. If the answer is no check the Wikipedia link I have provided. In: Lobby
Thread: About soviet shock troops in WWII19 Oct 2018, 16:27 PM Jump back to quoted post19 Oct 2018, 16:24 PMKirrik Shock Troops are non-Russian term, yes I know. I've told you several posts before that it merely refers to any sort of assault infantry... so anything else you want to add aside of repeating of what I said before? And thus offensive assault troops used by soviet during WWII fall under the category of Shock troops. Which is my point from post 1, shock troops both in real life and in game are offensive troops. In: Lobby
Thread: About soviet shock troops in WWII19 Oct 2018, 16:21 PM Jump back to quoted post19 Oct 2018, 16:17 PMKirrik You just claimed something about mythical Shock Troops in your previous posts and been told directly - they didnt exist. What we have in game is literally based of assault engineer-sapper squads which is obvious from armor they are wearing. Now that you've been told of gruesome reality of non-existance of "Shock Troops" squads you've been refencing all the time... can stop making things up? At this point you simply have to argue your case with wikipedia: "Shock troops or assault troops are formations created to lead an attack. They are often better trained and equipped than other infantry, and expected to take heavy casualties even in successful operations." and guess what Soviet shock armies are included in the explanation of shock troops. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shock_troops The simple fact remains shock troops are offensive assault troops. In: Lobby
Thread: About soviet shock troops in WWII19 Oct 2018, 16:12 PM Jump back to quoted post19 Oct 2018, 16:07 PMKirrik You're beyond pathetic at this point with your trolling. Katitof already pointed out that "Shock" Army (which is mistranslation) and Shock Troops arent the same thing. At this point you are the one trolling and turning a thread into personal issue. I have never claimed that shock armies and shock troops are the same thing, especially since an army is different thing than troops and shock troops may be a part if a Shock army. Actually in game all Shock commanders (including Soviet Shock army) come with Shock troops. PLS stop putting word in my mouth. That does not change the fact that Shock troops are OFFENSIVE oriented units both in real life and in game. I have little to add so have a nice day. In: Lobby
Thread: About soviet shock troops in WWII19 Oct 2018, 16:05 PM Jump back to quoted post19 Oct 2018, 15:58 PMLoopDloop This entire thread was based on semantics lol. Offensive forces can be used defensively to counterattack during an attack. They are still performing effectively in an offensively oriented manner in a tactically a defensive role. While made for offensive operations, there’s no reason such troops can’t utilized in such scenarios as defensive operations constitute more than holding a line with rifles and machine guns. No, the reason why this thread was created was to move an off topic debate out of the feedback thread and to explain the role in game and in real life of shock troops. I have replied to the argument that assault troops can be used defensively in previous post, pls try to read before jumping in into a debate and restarting a debate that has run its course. The fact is quite simple shock troops in real life and in game are offensive oriented assault troops. In: Lobby
Thread: About soviet shock troops in WWII19 Oct 2018, 16:02 PM Jump back to quoted post19 Oct 2018, 15:52 PMKirrik "Shock troops" didnt exist in real life genius. Thats a non-Russian umbrella term for any assault infantry. Shock troops exist in real life and where used by a number of armies thru out history including the Soviet army in WWII, this is a fact and that is the reason why the term even exist. Once more pls stop being personal, I would hate to have to respond in personal manner. In: Lobby