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Thread: [IGN First] #4 Unit Spotlight7 Oct 2022, 11:52 AM Jump back to quoted post7 Oct 2022, 08:34 AMCardboard Tank But meanwhile the Black Prince is okay? You know the vehicle that makes even less sense and completely shifts tank balance? All while Tigers actually fought in Tunisia at the very end of the NA campaign? Ok. who's going to tell him In: COH3 Central
Thread: since we are adding prototype tanks in game5 Oct 2022, 13:17 PM Jump back to quoted post4 Oct 2022, 17:22 PMKurobane Rather see COH 3 fail and they continue development on COH1 or COH2 instead Jump back to quoted post4 Oct 2022, 17:50 PMCrecer13 Right now my friend and I were discussing this. He is in many CoH communities, and he says that out of his 70 CoH friends, only one has pre-ordered the game. People don't like where the series is going. Absolutely to be expected. When your serious gritty WW2 RTS becomes a chinese software sweatshop product what can seriously be expected? And when I point that shit out people like [REDACTED] call me "cheap" since "if everybody is willing to pay only 20$ for a game don't be disappointed when it turns out shite". Clearly the logic of a loser company, and not one capable of making the next big RTS revival. Just my 0.02$. In: Lobby
Thread: Delaying is the best thing for COH3 and I called it.5 Oct 2022, 13:14 PM Jump back to quoted post4 Oct 2022, 16:40 PMDonnieChan good news Jump back to quoted post4 Oct 2022, 17:41 PMPatFenis good news Jump back to quoted post4 Oct 2022, 18:19 PMpagep happy to hear that, the demos didn't looked that well polished I called it though. On so many posts I have said a delay must come if COH3 is bound to be any good. Thankfully lelic listened to me. In: COH3 Central
Thread: since we are adding prototype tanks in game5 Oct 2022, 13:13 PM Jump back to quoted post4 Oct 2022, 15:54 PMSwitzerland I don't think many people here are trying to "stick it to wheraboos" but if folks are going to argue the KT/JT/ST aren't overrepresented then id say you are fighting reality not being identified as a wheraboo. Thier representation is indeed fiction. The sturmtiger is a failure in combat history, There isn't any record of it forcing battalions into retreat. No record of it wiping out entire platoons, striking fear into American/allied troops hearts. that's a pretty big fiction compared to its gameplay role where it does these things. I think what some people here are trying to point out regardless of some axis and allies contest is that these fictions have occurred many times prior. This one is somehow earth shattering. I do think its a pretty niche crowd who cant concede the idea that COH has taken these liberties in fiction before and perhaps it makes this discussion interesting on another level. I can see how the folks in that camp would have trouble with authenticity if they thought the game had been fairly factual and faithful to history up to this point, which would be concerning. BP was also a "failure" in military terms since the leadership ruled against using it due to how shite of a vehicle it was. ST was produced 20x more than BP. Even by your standards, your argument falls apart. In: Lobby
Thread: Soviet partisan doctrine 4 Oct 2022, 14:22 PM I have never seen someone using it in 2 years. In: Lobby
Thread: Delaying is the best thing for COH3 and I called it.4 Oct 2022, 14:21 PM Seriously. I have been talking for months that a delay should be in order if the game is any good. That's some seriously good news from COH3 way in a long time. +20% for me to buy it on release. In: Lobby
Thread: since we are adding prototype tanks in game4 Oct 2022, 14:15 PM [code][/code] Jump back to quoted post4 Oct 2022, 10:51 AMDonnieChan can some1 post the BP alternatives? Churchill Mark VII which was especially designed to counter Tiger I tanks having 50% more front plate armor along with the traditional 7.5cm Ordinance ATG. Could be easily converted to Croc if that's your thing. These were the tanks that pushed Rommel out of normandy and into continental Germany. You could even go Mark IX (which never fought any serious battles) and I would be ok. Hell, if you wanna go very deep and unicorn-y you could try to resurrect the Sentinel which never fought in any front or the Achilles. Seriously there are so many tanks you could add that it's insane they chose BP. And those I mentioned only scratch the bare surface, since I am at work rn. In: Lobby
Thread: since we are adding prototype tanks in game4 Oct 2022, 14:02 PM Jump back to quoted post3 Oct 2022, 22:25 PMSwitzerland Relic has re-written the history of vehicles before. Somehow we got a stock KT at 500 made and a doctrinal and now mostly relegated IS2 that is an infantry only wagon in a couple doctrines with some 3,000 built. Why? Because they don't care about numbers. For gameplay reasons Relic don't care about numbers or a units failed history in combat like the sturmtiger. They want interesting units. Again within historical fiction, what this product there isn't a special separation of the fiction of a useful sturmtiger and a deployed Black Prince both things didn't occur. Relic is welcome to make the same fictional choices in their product. As others have pointed out this new shake of fiction sprinkles isn't going to spoil the fiction layer cake of COH 2 whose layers include KT/JT, useful sutrmtiger, stock IR halftracks, invincible stuka aircraft etc.. They don't care, and don't need to care about this tailored gatekeeping of historical (insert label trying to create new genre of fiction where prototypes are the line) because they have done this in all previous iterations of the franchise, created fictional events to make an interesting product. It's amazing how you can continuously write the same bullshit and not get tired. KT being doctrinal was 100% a gameplay choice to give OKW a fallback unit in case they lost Schwere HQ (and thus they could not produce neither tanks nor elite inf) and still makes for some interesting tactics. How that can apply to BP, a unit that fought exactly 0 times only you can understand and nobody else. In: Lobby
Thread: since we are adding prototype tanks in game4 Oct 2022, 14:00 PM Jump back to quoted post3 Oct 2022, 18:36 PMMr Carmine Just for the record 20 x 0 is 0. Wich is the contribution of some niche units such as the st to the war. Same as the bp namely 0. it has an interesting history you said, thats subjective. It contributed next to nothing. It was insignificant or rather irrelevant in the war. Statisticly speaking there is no real difference between that and a prototype. The criteria of it needs to have fired a shot in a battle (wich is the argument being made) is a very weak one at best. And even weaker is that then historical accuracy takes a big step back for "gameplay" to step up. If one goes full retard on historical accuracy, be consistant and and stick with it. And dont cherry pick things when it suits you. The reason I wrote this was to dispell the line of reasoning "ST was made in 20 pieces -> it's niche -> it's overrepresented -> coh is fiction" which is wanky at best. Anyways, are you for or against it? Because 99% of people talking for it just want to stick it to wehraboos not because they truly believe it. In: Lobby
Thread: [IGN First] #8 U.S. Forces Sizzle Trailer4 Oct 2022, 13:57 PM Jump back to quoted post3 Oct 2022, 22:10 PMWilly Pete Lol i just love the idea of ppl using the word "normie" unironically. Just hilarious And the based god is citing "normie" opinions to make his point??? haha but it's true graphics not good on trailer. i played the alpha and graphics were way better In: COH3 Central