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Thread: Black Prince Poll19 Jul 2021, 16:28 PM Jump back to quoted post19 Jul 2021, 16:26 PMThe_rEd_bEar you just described 60% of German tanks in coh1/2 Most WW2 tanks in general were unreliable or had stupid design choices. like most early T34 variants lacking radios or the Tiger adding 50+ moving parts to save 10 pounds on a 50 ton tank. In: COH3 Central
Thread: Black Prince Poll19 Jul 2021, 16:17 PM Jump back to quoted post19 Jul 2021, 16:15 PMThe_rEd_bEar the Maus and panther 2 were not even out of the development stage, the kugelblitz may or may not have been used, the black prince was actually functional They all never saw combat, so they should all not be in the game. It's not that hard to understand. In: COH3 Central
Thread: Black Prince Poll19 Jul 2021, 16:05 PM Jump back to quoted post19 Jul 2021, 16:02 PMSeductiveCardbordBox Unlike the Maus and Panther 2, the BP was built and was functional before the end of the war. It just wansn't moved to the front line. (Or even mainland europe) It's not a fictional or theory design. It's a real tank. One of them is still operational to this day, having been finished during WWII. Yes, a real tank that never saw combat and only had 6 made, like the Kugelblitz. And I don't see either being in COH in any capacity. In: COH3 Central
Thread: Black Prince Poll19 Jul 2021, 15:58 PM Jump back to quoted post19 Jul 2021, 15:50 PMThe_rEd_bEar wow a whole 20 sturm tigers amazing, when ever wonder waffen gets added no one cares but every one is losing their minds of a fucking tank If the Maus, Panther 2, or Kugelblitz get added I would be just as mad as the Black Prince getting added. The Sturmtiger, Ostwind, Pershing, and the Comet were all tanks where less than 40 saw service in WW2, all were added to COH at one point. The Black Prince had 6 prototypes and never saw service in WW2 this should not be added to COH. Also, vehicles like the Sturmtiger shouldn't even be built in huge quantities. It serves a niche specialized role. to compare, the KV2 shares a similar role to the Sturmtiger and only about 200 were made. a very small amount compared to every other soviet tank made. In: COH3 Central
Thread: Black Prince Poll19 Jul 2021, 15:37 PM Jump back to quoted post19 Jul 2021, 15:23 PMThe_rEd_bEar v1s were not used in a tactical capacity, infrared assault rifles weren’t used, and don’t get me started on units like the strum tiger, you’re fighting a losing argument V1 existed and were used. not in a tactical capacity, but were used. Infrared STGs were used in the last few months in the war, and the concept of infrared small arms were used earlier than that. 20 Sturmtigers were made, assigned to divisions, and used. that's 20 more than the amount of Black princes used in WW2. In: COH3 Central
Thread: Black Prince Poll19 Jul 2021, 15:08 PM Jump back to quoted post19 Jul 2021, 14:55 PMThe_rEd_bEar company of heroes was never a historically accurate game, therefore your argument is invalid and this thread is a waste of space, you’re trying to make company of heroes in to something it’s not. You want historical accuracy? Go play steel division or gates of hell Was it completely historically accurate? no. But atleast almost every unit showcased was used in WW2 at some point. The black prince was NOT used in WW2 in any capacity. It did not fight on any front. And it did not appear in 1943 Italy. In: COH3 Central
Thread: I'm sorry Relic18 Jul 2021, 18:18 PM I don't really see anyone in these forums actively ignoring the term Pre-Alpha, maybe your talking about their official forums. In which I will agree, the official forums are lacking some sanity right now. In: COH3 Central
Thread: CoH3 File digging16 Jul 2021, 19:44 PM Jump back to quoted post16 Jul 2021, 19:41 PMGachiGasm Also fun fact. It seems like Wehrmact will benifit from the battlegroup chosen in a different fashion. UK forces right now, seems to have standart veterancy bonuses and abilities like we saw in coh2. US on the other hand can chose what ability they want to unlock for veterancy for each squad. But Wehrmacht seems to have a whole different system where veterancy bonuses for your units or regular abilities depens on the commander you've chosen. For instance defensive commander unlocks flares for Jaegers squad, spec ops unlocks camo in cover for jaegers and so on. Aswell as other abilities which affects a lot of faction units. You seem to be correct. People have access the German Faction to see how it functions, and it seems to be the case Seen in this video In: COH3 Central
Thread: Is the Black Prince supposed to be some kind of easter egg?16 Jul 2021, 19:11 PM Jump back to quoted post16 Jul 2021, 18:58 PMMusti bing bing haha Yes, but atleast those "prototypes" had actual operational use. The Black Prince was made after WW2. Also only 6 were made. The only other vehicle that had less made than that and also appeared in COH was the Bergetiger. And as for field modifications, why not use the Churchill 75NA? That was a field modified Churchill used in Italy that gave it a better gun that was also more durable in the turret region. And over hundred Churchills were modified this way. In: COH3 Central
Thread: Is the Black Prince supposed to be some kind of easter egg?16 Jul 2021, 15:44 PM Jump back to quoted post16 Jul 2021, 14:08 PMAvNY Oh geez, just give it up already! You want the fantasy of being able to call in one of the fanciful units? (and it is a fantasy). You will have to deal with the fact that Allied counters will have to also become commonplace. What I am saying is if the Axis get the fancy kit the wehraboos want to fap over, and if that fancy kit actually works in the game as it did in the designers mind rather than on the battlefield, then the Allies will have to get a counter. Your choice... do you want it to be an equally fanciful working allied heavy tank design or 4-5x the mediums. or do you want to have a 10% die roll at the start of an engagement to even see if you get to call in a heavy at all? This has to be bait at this point, but I'll bite Its a basic rule for COH at this point: If a few (20+) were made, and it saw atleast some major combat in WW2. It can be in COH. This is why the Sturmtiger is in. Its why the Flame Hezter was in, its why the Pershing was in, its why the Comet was in, and its why the Black Prince should NOT be in And as for the battlefield operational problems, literally every faction had horrendous tank problems. A good chunk of T34 and Shermans were lemons on the field. Tigers were stupidly over designed for no good reason (I.E adding 50+ moving parts to save 10 pounds on a 50 ton Tank). Churchills intentionally had limits put on their engines so it couldn't go faster than running infantry. WW2 was literally the first major conflict that used Tanks from start to finish. Ofcourse everyone would be experimenting and failing at tank design. it was a new concept. In: COH3 Central