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Its quite the irony to call this a work of fiction when we have re-written history in COH before. Sturmtigers have no success record in offensive combat yet in COH that is very different. There is no record of a V1 fired on a small unit mass like a company. The IR rifle scopes saw a deployment so limited it would have only equipped a battalion and they are integrated into the game.

So again numbers and historical weight have always taken a back seat in COH. The Black Prince isn't very out worldly when in the context of Relics unit inclusions. This really does look like gatekeeping and I'm glad to see there's people in the keep it camp in decent numbers. Greyshots new video is also worth a look.

If vampire halftrack stealing resources via the New York stock exchange, Invincible Stukas and Bergetigers recovering total wrecks in 1-2 minutes aren't historical fiction as well I don't know what is by your gate keeping standards. There's been some pretty historical fiction moves in this game plenty of times. Again this is totally gatekeeping on a funny level. I mean you have air support post Bodenplatte for the Germans in the West, fiction.

Unit has been part of the design process and is meant to take part in their product.

The name calling is pretty top notch funny though seriously this is a discussion place not a playground in grade school.

They themselves said that they want historicity and authenticity, and they themselves add to the game a non-authentic Black Prince prototype from 1945 to 1942 in Africa. If you want the Black Prince refrain from talking about historicity and authenticity, we've already seen the price of promises in CoH2 campaigns.

I don't see how they've ever achieved much historical accuracy if you consider the vehicles present in COH 1 or 2 in the respective time periods.

I would definitely say that Relic has shown there is a caveat to how they abide historical accuracy to create an interesting product. That's why we have flame hetzers, ostwinds, 1945 fuel drops from invincible stukas and stock King Tigers and IR halftracks.

Based, you know the answer to your own question on the Ratte, and relic knows their answer as well on that vehicle but I mean reach out to them on Twitter and ask.

As for this post on politics and trying to swing the world had dictatorships, these ones were bad too German army was effective blah blah blah wasn't aware we were suddenly discussing that here. Post 85 is in the wrong thread that's for sure

But ill humor your aspect of the "hardware" part, COH franchise the German factions have never been left wanting for cool not so historical toys.

So I reiterate my point as is being done so by a few people now, COH as a franchise isn't historically accurate.

We have a Luftwaffe that exists post Bodenplatte, we've had halftracks that set up some kind of New York stock exchange and steal US currency, we have King tigers possible in every single OKW match. We have invincible Stukas dropping supply crates on natural fuel points we have ostwinds, wirblewinds, flame hetzers and sturmtigers available in amazing numbers. Tactically deployed V1s also come to mind.

but oh no there's a thic allied boy with a gun that's bigger than normal is being given to the allied faction so its all broken now. Again I see the detractors as gate keepers to some skewed ideal of "realism" in COH and I personally see it as a hard to make albeit entertaining to watch argument.

Conclusion, Relic is steering their product don't its normal path. Some units and abilities represent the real history very poorly but its entertaining to have them and use them.

To come back to the point of my post, as I'm not going to join this "Here's my table with numbers from wiki" and the reply of "HERES MY TABLE WITH EVEN BIGGER NUMBERS"

My point in regards to the normal presence of the Luftwaffe, Jagdtigers and Elefant and a magical tank that picks up wrecks and makes them new tanks again is its HIGHLY not historical actually its pure fiction. This is obvious as it was unhistorical decision making for the game to be appealing. The vampire stealing resources, again was an UNhistorical design choice made by Relic.

If they wish to make an UNhistorical design choice and release the black prince, its going to have to just be dealt with. Its their IP, so why is the gatekeeping happening now? ALL the previous historical fictions like INVICIBLE Stuka supply planes dropping fuel crates (Still invincible btw) I'm sorry its hard to not see this as just collective whinging from the side that has required a massive of UNhistorical changes to create a viable army and opponent to allied factions and draw in players to the product.

The King Tiger is available to 100% of OKW players 100% of the time. That very option existing is an example of trying to garner that myth to create interest in the player base not to abide historical accuracy and that is obvious. If that applies to give the allies a cool super heavy too, big deal we've been seeing hundreds more numbers or super rare tanks from the German factions for years.

Anyways simple point and an OMG factor here, COH1 and COH2 are poor examples of historical accuracy, so the Black Prince is a welcome addition to the Vampire Halftrack, Magic repair Tiger, hordes of tanks never produced in number club.