Further investigation on the katy has shown the following
Katy story:
23:55, Kimbo spots blob, its al over the mini map
24:01- 24:04 Kimbo retreats scott and paratrooper after shooting the blob also back offs jacksons
24:10 first rocket from seeking katy shows up
I don’t know how slow u think seeking is, but I bet even my grandma could have lined up a katy by now. There is a 15 sec time frame between first sight of the blob, all over the tacmap and plain view. Would be nice if everyone who was so busy looking in the replays and flaming in this thread, also took the time to look at kimbo’s vod lol.
https://clips.twitch.tv/IcyShortBillRuleFive-PDZZCWFDf-1O51ak Kimbo vod clip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sp40YvZTY0&list=PL_YBMTftAjosbora-jA6DR54ix8ZY_NNq&index=32
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlFDmsKh5EY&list=PL_YBMTftAjosbora-jA6DR54ix8ZY_NNq&index=33
The reaction time argument was never about previous vision of the blob. It was referring to seekings own claims regarding all the "edge of the FoW" moments. These are still factually wrong, but could be explained by him being stressed out and desparately trying to find an explanation rather than lying in bad faith. |
Seeking has managed to find in one of my vods clip for the katyusha.
Clip from brosras: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlFDmsKh5EY
clip from stream: https://clips.twitch.tv/VenomousPolishedFinchKeepo-Tzcfo-q8v8x3Uds3
This blob is lazily walking since i spot it on the road, by this stage they giving up and not microing that much. Seeking fire his katyusha in predicted spot, probably before he even see models. The part where i see blob a-moving is cut out to make it look more suspicious than it actually is.
Yea agreed. Context debunks this clip almost completely.
Edit: And 90% of the clips dont even require debunking. |
It wouldn't be fair to use this "lie" as evidence. It's only natural for someone pressured by serious accusations to try and come up with a rationalization for his past actions. If the incident happened a while ago, it's quite likely that he doesn't remember it clearly, so he forms a flawed rationalization based either on his hazy memories or simply what seems plausible.
Yes, that is a valid point regarding 2. But if seeking doesn't hack he should just stick to the truth and not make up explanations to avoid this issue.
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Yes I just saw it. Honestly I'm 60/40 on this now. On the one hand there's enough circumstantial evidence to make this serious, but on the other hand it could just be that timings were lucky for seeking (except for the katy and t70 instance)
But then why is he not saying that it were merely the lucky timings? Why does he claim to have seen the units and reacted to them, which is objectively impossible?
That's what I don't get. He seems to be a proven liar as far as I can tell. 1. He's denying to have played on Deadbolt after the warning which is untrue. 2.The above mentioned claim about the vision. |
I hadn't really noticed this clip before. But honestly, assuming replays are in sync enough to reliably represent the actual match (I have no idea if they are), then this single katy barrage is absolutely proof of a maphack. In the clip he clearly puts down the barrage order before seeing the infantry or at the very least in the same frame as a single Gren model appears, and there is nothing that can minimap spot in their arsenal.
The only question here is how accurate the replay is.
I'm not saying he's not hacking. But you have to consider confirmation bias. If there are enough instances of a katy firing you will get these insanely lucky moments. What really makes me think it's a maphack is that seeking claims that he saw the blob which is impossible. |
Yes but if map hacking is obvious as in case of deadbolt then banning should also not take more than 1-2 days and AFAIK deadbolt's account is still unbanned which is very very weird considering it was made 100% obvious that he is hacking days ago.
I honestly don't get where this 100% certainty comes from all of a sudden. Because A_E said so? I don't feel confident at all judging Deadbolt by that one game.
And regarding seeking it's even less certain. Sorry but the clips A_E presented are actually quite weak. There's like 4-5 clips that are very suspicious but far from 100% and these clips weren't even included in A_Es original video. Most of the clips in Brosras/Ashas/Artavicks playlists are honestly useless.
What should get seeking banned is that he's still bullshitting about playing on the Deadbolt account. There are several replays from march that were 99% played by seeking on deadbolts account. |
Nothing personal vs you GiaA, but i hate all people, who brings arguments at all, without they can proof it or have it direct out first hand lol.
I was speaking with seeking like 2 days after deadbolt was starting to pride post the replays. So i was the first one who were thinking: hmmm no way.
But seeking lied direct into my face. For 2 days ago seeking finally was saying sorry to me now, about this.
Ok, I was explainign this to some german coh players on Discord and one of them claimed to be chatting with you while we were talking and told me that was your response. (I remember his claim verbatim) So I had a fair amount of confidence that it's correct. Apparently he was full of shit. But you're right I shouldn't have used that case as an example because as you say it's second hand information. |
In terms of the katyusha firing, to me it seemed as though he was firing on the retreating volks. I will admit the t70 sniper clip was odd. Especially since he didn't finish repairing it.
what retreating volks though? they retreated as a reaction to the katy as far as i can tell. Nonetheless I don't think a single katy barrage says much. |
He = seeking, right?
Because i never said something like that. I always thought already in the start, that it is not deadbolt.
Ok I take it back then sorry. I only heard of that response through someone else. My point still stands though. Don't get why he wasn't prevented from signing up. |
Yes and? what the argument here? I could share my account with Seeking that wouldn't be a problem until he or I decide to cheat and impact both reputation. He's been careless or too trusty with his "uncle" and unfortunately that went against him, sad but that's also the reason nobody should share his account.
I didn't felt any pleasure in A_E voice in its videos nor in its comment on the topic, This has been A LOT of stress for someone who's dedicating A LOT of its time to entertain us through COH2 and Seeking actions could have wipe all his efforts and reputation, this is something not to forget.
In this matter if Seeking goes clean apologizes should go both ways between A_E and Seeking.
The account sharing thing in itself seems harmless. The only issue is that his uncle signed up for a tourney. Back then for some weird reason nobody intervened even though it was blatantly obvious that it's seeking playing. People told sturmpanther and he was like "no, deathbolt wants to prove himself, he trained with XYZ." You almost can't blame Seeking for people being THAT naive. Maybe his uncle just signed up without telling him. Since it was so obvious back then and the uncle didn't actually play in the tourney it shouldn't be taken too seriously imho.
The real problem is that seeking keeps lying about playing on the Deadbolt account after the warning was issued. |