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Jump back to quoted post7 Dec 2021, 17:20 PMVipper

Do we agree that the abilities "Hull Down" and "Firing Positions!" are not "exactly the same" and that comparing them is not really meaningful in any way?

Do we agree that an Elefant and KV-2 are completely different units?

Do we agree that KV-2 is quite unique with dual role?

Jump back to quoted post7 Dec 2021, 16:36 PMProtos Angelus

I've seen a JT barrage first hit wipe my entire rifle squad. Never knew why it has such a low cooldown and is on a tank with 450 frontal armour and 1000+ hp. Sure an ISU152 has a 60 range HE shell and good armour (340), but it has it's weaknesses. No panther to defend dives against it and generally pretty weak main tank considering AT. With the nerf to the RAM combo, JT having 300 dmg and 500 penetration and 450 armour and better accuracy on the main gun, don't know why it also get a massive AI ability that can one hit wipe squads from 125 range, when generally Soviets won't be able to deal with it without sacrificing more MP/fuel/muni than one JT is worth.

The only real downside of the barrage on JT is that it has no spread. It's quite accurate and pretty much all shells land in the circle meaning, if it's aimed at moving squads, you will damage and definitely force retreats but unless it's a first hit wipe, you won't get a lot of kills past the first shell. Of course, if the enemy is not paying attention at that moment and the squad is static and you use the fussie flare to scout it out, you can inflict massive damage.
Again, this lack of scatter means it's better against encampments.
Still, why a dedicated heavy AT has a 125 range AI barrage is beyond me. Probably sturm or sander like using it a lot on wide open maps in teamgames. Who knows. I agreed with the range nerf on the ISU152. Nobody likes 70 range mini-nukes in teamgames but ISU152 has a lot of other vulnerabilities:
1) It's AT is mediocre with the ROF and penetration values
2) It's frontal armour is not all that impressive. It's high overall but you can't really force luck with it (like you can force luck with a KT against a wall of M1 57s)
3) It does not have a Panther to protect it.

JT never should have had a barrage ability, not with the armour piercing ability that transforms it into a pak43 for some time.

Jump back to quoted post7 Dec 2021, 12:01 PMVipper

These ability are NOT "exactly the same" and actually their quite different:

Ostheer:
Name: "Hull Down"
Duration: None
Cost: Free
-25% received damage.
+25% weapon range.
Vehicle can't move.

KV-2
Name: "Firing Positions!"
Duration: Toggle Ability
Cost: Free
+30 maximum range. (+75% weapon range)
+25 minimum range.
KV-2 is immobile in siege mode.



One one is doctrinal ability taking up a slot and the other is ability always available to the specific unit.

There is no "received accuracy penalty" it has been patched out around three years ago.

Jump back to quoted post6 Dec 2021, 21:55 PMVipper

ISU-152 is used for it extended range people would still use it if it did 160 damage and fired every 7 seconds.

IS-2 does not need 240 damage with slower reload, nor does need a massive buff of 240 damage with it current reload.