So to recap, the correct way to use Counter Barrage is now to aim it perpendicular to the enemy position. Because it spends time rotating and tracks through the fog of war, the barrage won't start until it rotates enough to be able to fire at them, by which point their barrage would have finished and their retreat order would have been given. Counter Barrage will then attack them at where they retreated to since fog of war doesn't affect it..
Because of the delay before the counter barrage, the Allied team can never be sure if the LeFH is rotating or if counter barrage is even accurate, meaning the only way to truly protect your Arty is to never stop moving.
...And the balance team is fine with this.
Yes. They want you to fall back all the way to your HQ. Even on small maps where it will still smash your unit in your base sector. |
Look if anyone took an interest to do more testing you would find out that mortars dont trigger this which I assume is due to the type of round which leads me believing this is unintended.
Of course this is unintended and stupid. But apparently it isn't an issue to some despite video evidence to the contrary. Something about it "not happening in game" when the same person who did the test in OP also posted a clip from the game of his Katyusha getting shit on by a leFH tracking it. |
Just that this video is pretty pointless and only blows things out of proportion by showing an unrealistic outcome. The tracking is next to useless in the majority of maps.
Why am I not surprised. What an absolute joke.
'it 'TRACKS' is probably a bit hyperbole since it's really just the first shot fired that homes in on the target, as already pointed out. that's certainly very strong, especially considering the minimal input required, but it's still far away from firing heat-seeking missiles as the thread title would suggest. delay the reverse or queue a short stop into the retreat path and cb will miss your mobile arty piece.
that is not to say this shouldn't be looked at/changed, but it's also far from game-breaking.
It's not gamebreaking? A zero micro ability that will track your moving artillery basically until it stops and will hit it isn't gamebreaking. I have no words.
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CB is probably too strong but the testing video is still pretty pointless.
The units the CB targets are usually far away and not in "close" range like in the testing video which will mean direct hits like that are pure RNG. It's one thing to kill a Katyusha when it sits at 60 range from your Lefh but something completely different to do it on 150 range with FOW turned on.
Also as Sanders said the CB tracks before the counter barrage starts but once it has started the tracking stops so you can still move your units out of the way.
Priest and Sexton counter Lefh more than Lefh counters them because of the doctrines they come in and because they are obviously too mobile and have too much HP to be effectively killed by counter-barrage.
Are you serious? It TRACKS. Range doesn't matter, unless it's completely out of the howitzer's range. How much more mental gymnastics are you going to do to justify this bullshit? |
It only tracks for the first shot, though. The video fails to mention that detail. Once it starts firing, it no longer tracks, and it will just finish its counter barrage in that area.
So this is only relevant when you cancel the rocket artillery barrage and start moving before the LeFH has had a chance to set up and fire the first shell.
No way. Are you seriously trying to say behaviour of counter battery is absolutely fine? |
Pershing is not fine. It's a more expensive Comet. It either needs a cost reduction and no unit limit or a buff to justify it's stupid price. |
The Pershing is fine. It's got great penetration, good speed, and very good HE.
You're kidding, right? |
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Absolutely love this "argument". |
Or you can just play against him and give him a good game then he'll respect you.
I've got better things to do than to waste time on some random on the internet.
Exactly, then cut the crap with the sarcasm.
76mm is very powerful, it has no place on a stock roster and there's a reason it's been meta with Mechanized doctrine in recent times. Either L2P or don't argue with no arguments except "I know best".
Your argument is "I'm a level 30". That holds absolutely no value to me but I'm sure "you're good".
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Playercard? I'm rank 30 in 1v1 USF. You?
Oh so now we have to trade playercards? If that's your only argument then I'm not wasting my time here, you can stay in your wehraboo land. And I couldn't care less about 1v1. |