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They're perfect to bleed your enemy early on when coupled with a riflesquad and work great even vs green cover. Then they're also map dependent and later on require a BAR to stay relevant in term of fighting.
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Funny things is its more likely to be the same players that were abusing CB using now the B4 for fun. |
It's tit for tat m8. Aliied don't get to have tanks that can go against axis tanks the same way axis infantry don't get to go against allied ones.
But we all agree with you in fact, as you stated gren which cost 240mp are inferior to riflemen (280mp) because of the HMG42. Then following the same logic Pershing's price should be cut to match its current performance in comparison with the Tiger. |
Not to mention that the Comet is rightfully locked behind an extra tech tier, bringing the total costs up significantly compared to a normal medium and providing a safe timing gat. Something that is not possible for the E8. That's the main reason it did not get a (mini) Comet profile. It would've snowballed way too hard.
What a non argument, you could have made it available once all tech are unlocked if the tech gate was so critical.
Does the commander panther require a special tech to be called?
Do Pershing or Tiger require special tech to be called? A command Ez8 with a AT profile close to the panther (or in between the comet and panther) is what we really suggested. |
It has 215 armor, compared to the P4's pen of 125/115/110, of course that plays a big part in the match-up against the P4.
At max range;
Chance for P4J to pen E8: 110/215x100 = 52%
Chance for E8 to pen P4J: 155/234x100 = 66%
At close range:
Chance for P4J to pen E8: 125/215x100 = 58%
Chance for E8 to pen P4J: 200/234x100 = 86%
Theoretical TTK, disregarding accuracy (which is about even, with E8 being 1 target size larger but having better scatter and better moving accuracy),
Time it takes for P4J to kill E8 at max range:
5/(110/215)x5,75 = 56,2 seconds
Time it takes for E8 to kill skirted P4 at max range:
4/(155/234)x6,55 = 39,6 seconds
Time it takes for P4J to kill E8 at near range:
5/(125/215)x5,75 = 49,6 seconds)
Time it takes for E8 to kill P4J at near range:
4/(200/234)x6,55 = 30,5 seconds
So yes it does win, decisively, thanks to its hitpoints and its relatively high armor (compared to P4 penetration). Especially at close to mid range. An E8 easily wins at range and it demolishes a P4J in a close to mid range brawl.
You're not proving your point, P4J is more than capable to defend itself, we're far from a Panther demolishing a Sherman with nothing more than a scratch on its armor. |
The E8 demolishes a P4J too, because it has more hitpoints and more armor. It's an excellent vehicle against all medium tanks.
No it does not. Nobody comes here and say that the P4J demolishes the M4A3 while it naturally wins thanks to its amount of armor. So please refrain yourself from using superlative because the EZ8 wins vs it thanks to its amount of hitpoints. |
Areafield
these factions have doctrines that are capable of decrewing or destroying lef's:
Sov has 6
UKF has 4
USF has 3
Total= more than axis, your point?
Nobody complains about the lack of it on Allied side, just that Axis seems to rediscover the wheel facing a proper artillery working. |
much of the problem stems from limitations relic put on the balance team so you guys shouldn't blame sander or the balance team for them. Im sure if they where able to they would consider making the calliope non doc which would solve so much problems (UKF too with land mattress).
Ez8 really does have decent stats, but its just not desirable, if you need AT or AI, they have much better options. For the tank to be desirable it needs to be buffed to OP levels.
Calliope doesn't need to be stock if you give correct alternatives |
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Relic will never allow the Calliope to be stock, but the balance team is responsible for the Scott and Pakh nerf to the ground making the Calliope becoming even more mandatory.
Anyway we all had the same conclusion, making the EZ8 a panther/comet alike (stat wise and price wise), even as limited to 1 but they never wanted to even give a try to the idea which says a lot about how they care about feedback and USF in general. |
E8 ensures the enemy can't rely on p4s to bully usf where otherwise they could and would. It's one of the only USF tanks that can bounce anything at all
No it doesn't, its not enough. On a vacuum or excel sheet yeah it has the better stat, on the field with all the variable that's definitively not valuable. |
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