Elite Riflemen
Just an idea: Why not just an option to reinforce riflesquad with vetted models?
You build your squad, you fight, you lose models, you reinforce them with vetted models so the overall squad gain veterancy.
The downfall is obviously that you need to fight, lose models and pay to reinforce your squad.
vetted Models could be more expensive or the ability to need 1CP, don't know but this could bring a bit more strategy in the game.
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Maxim spam is a consequence of conscript/penal poor performance. At first step, instead of looking into a way to modify his dynamic, found a way to make other T0/T1 units more efficient. And if people still prefers to use Maxim spam, here you start thinking of changing it.
Long range weapons
Reduce speed pace of any unit handling a long range weapon + Apply a cover penalty to them like green covers have yellow covers value, and yellow covers have no covers and no covers red covers.
The objective to increase their micro management and make them more vulnerable from flanking.
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Thread: Action Items: Balance Feedback Required!24 Jul 2014, 07:33 AM
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Thread: War Spoils - Let's talk.22 Jul 2014, 14:43 PM
Relic is an amazing company. They can make people willing to pay twice a unique feature. Those commanders should be given for free to anyone possessing WFA DLC... In: Lobby |
Thread: Storm That Position! OKW Build Order22 Jul 2014, 08:45 AM
True, the biggest issue to counter your strat is that damned Cutoff. Bar aren't that expensive, having one before you can push the cutoff should not be a big deal but sometime it happens. As I said before, I'm more confident vs this strat now that I have the mechanized commander. going 3 rifles + jeep helps a lot vs double pio BO. In: OKW Strategies |
Thread: Storm That Position! OKW Build Order21 Jul 2014, 15:21 PM
Hi. You arent clear on one matter - do u go Leutenant, or do u not? This is important. No Lt means no 50cal, HalfTrack or Utility car. This means no AT mines, no area denial (supression). This on the other hand means that match becomes micro-intensive two-way struggle, as both skip tiers to go fast for late-game units. No one countering the other one. Lemon specificaly said he wont go Puma or any ligt vehicle, so going captain is redundant - why do u need bazooka squad or stuart if there are no light vehicles, but roketens and shrecks on the field, denying you effective use of stuart? Lt into major is better, considering lt grinds even vetted sturms into dust, if they didnt ambush him. Also AA Halftruck is too good to resist in that kind of game, as it can deal considerable amount of dmg, if u just be wary of roketens. If there are two At guns, means he has less infantry squads. LemonJuice strat is an Anti-Infantry build order. His first objective is to make you bleed MP by wiping out your riflesquads, forcing you to engage close combats as soon as possible. He is not really blobbing because 2 stormpio cost a lot in term of MP, and also because you don't really let him doing it with a efficient Cap and Run. So your best counter is a fast BARs because it gives you an advantage in a 1vs1 squad situation, with BARs your can defend yourself vs stormpio. Going T2 is redundant with BARs, .50 truly gives you a good side map control, but is more likely to be focused by the raket. The Haft Track is redundant with BARs, there is no really need to build it if you know how to use them. The half-track is a all-in as in most cases it delay you too much your T3 and T4. Because you damn need an AT for sure if you manage to survice so far. Going T3 gives you a stuart, much more reliable than a half-track to flank him, and definitely if you manage to survive, you will need an AT-gun. There are now way to think you have 100% chance to secure your half-track and kill him. In any cases, if you manage to keep it alive or if you go T3 directly, he will need to adapt and probably build a Puma, the AT is here for that. A fast Captain gives you a other important ability, fast development. In fact you don't really need him in the field, he is a great value in your base to pump out shermans. As a conclusion, many times "counter" does not only means reacting by going to the most evident counter, but going forward and forcing him to start countering you and your own strat. It is most likely that you will never win vs him if you only try to react and overcome him in his own strat, it is possible but at same experience level, he obviously has more experience in it. In: OKW Strategies |
Thread: Storm That Position! OKW Build Order21 Jul 2014, 08:13 AM
Hi, Coming from the other side, I would like to bring some comments from an USF player. This strat is really powerful and gives me every game I'm facing it hard times. If I play well, nor being to much unlucky (luck is sometime important...) the game can last really long... until I finally win As USF 1- Do not engage fight with Sturmpio. riflesquads are meat for sturmpio for the 3-4 first minutes of the game. So until you have your BARs, just avoid the fight with them. 2- Can and decap. This game consists in a Cap and Run. It is really similar to old COH USF versus PE GE early spam. As the OKW has 2 really expensive sturmpio squads, his capping power and map presence on the field is lower, use it as an advantage to be everywhere else on the map and retreat when sturmpio are coming. As LemonJuice said, it requires him a lot of micro, so keep an eye to any of his micro mistake, for sure he would do some so try to punish him at this time, but do not force your luck - sturmpio are terrible and can reverse a situation faster than you expected. 3- BARs, When you have BARs, it is time to regroup and fight. Focus fire on Sturmpio with BARs. Here come all the usual strats to fight I'll not go in it into details. 4- Fuel Cache. If you performed well your Cap and Run, you should'nt have any MP issues, so use it to build a least 1 fuel cache. 2 can be really decisive for a fast sherman later on. 5- NO T2 ==> T3. With this amount of firepower, OKW doesn't no need more AI stuff, so for sure he is going to a Puma expecting you to build a halftrack. 6- Captain is on the field. -- If it is a Puma: you do not really need to worry, Puma is bad vs infantry. Your riflesquads should be vetted now so one or two AT grenade is enough to keep it away. -- If it is a HT: you'll need more micro, it is up to you if you prefer going first Stuart or AT gun. Use your captain to take out a Stuart or a AT gun faster and keep them close on the field, why not using the stuart as a bait?. In both cases, you need both before going T4. So you make sure he is not going to try a Puma spam. 7- First Sherman and T4 stuff. Not sure it is really necessary to enter into more details here. Everyone manages it on his own. But as you maybe have 2 fuel caches you should be able to counter any OKW fast T4. Note one: Focus fire on Sturmpio is sometime not the best option, sturmpios don't have AT, if you have the opportunity to wipe out a volks squad, do it. It will reduce his AT soft power. Note two: As I haave dropped the USF mechanized commander, it is obviously easier to me now to counter this strat with a fast jeep Note three: If there is 2 sturmpio and a Kubel, it means far less capping power for the OKW player. he only relies on forcing you to fight, so avoid them before BARs. In: OKW Strategies |
Thread: The Jackson and Micro Fairness18 Jul 2014, 12:48 PM
Do you think they'll fix the Jackson, they never fixed the M10 missshot bug on COH after so many years But anyway the Jackson is better than the M10 in COH so with experience it looks like the Jackson is really powerful I would like to speak about Micro fairness on a separate topic cause, here again relic felt in his old balance weakness. A faction's units that can rape equal opponent units in couple of seconds, in many situation before you can even react. In: COH2 Gameplay |
Thread: Early game commander doctrinal abilities.17 Jul 2014, 14:14 PM
Hello, I would like to know how do you pick your commander. Are you more an early commander or a late one? Since 90% of my 1vs1 game are vs OKW, my vision exposed below is strongly influenced by them. I have try all three commanders many times in 1vs1 situation, and tried different tactics with the CP0 and CP1 options. And I’m bit disappointed as I feel them kind of useless. So to reply myself first, I’m a late commander, I prefer to know what I’m facing and being able to reply with the best late game commander options. To explain why, I just want to provide a feedback on early USF CP options. I don’t know if you share it, and if not or have some tricks I didn’t use, let share them! Armor Doctrine: Assault Engineer are really weak to be efficient, overall for their price. If their damage is reasonable, their survivability is horrible. You cannot leave them alone, First I tried them as a fast pushing squad, to counter sturmpio, but they just don’t do the job, after I tried them as a capping unit but since you always need to keep them in screen otherwise they get just wipeout too fast before you can even react to warnings, especially vs sturmpio I do not use them to cap anything. Finally I decided to pick them for their flamer but here again you lose the flamethrower if the carrier die (and it happens randomly and quite fast), it just doesn’t worst 60 ammo. At the end I succeed couple of flanking with them and it took too much time to burn a squad… Better use a RE with volley fire or a riflesquad. Crew Thompson, they die as fast as assault engineers, I tried couple of time in different situation to use them with their Thompson, the result was the same each time, a quick death. Infantry Doctrine: Half-track mortar CP2. I had great hopes on it, overall since USF does not have any indirect fire unit before T3, and howitzer being so bad. So I had been greatly disappointed by it, damage dealt by it is incredibly random and the AOE of shell too small. I remember a game where it took 3 round of barrage fire to take a single MG34 squad (not full health) in sign of vision. I don’t know how many shells are drop during a barrage but it was unbelievable. I finally manage to kill them with another unit. This unit is just unreliable in term of firepower, and investing on it only to drop smoke shell is too expensive. Riflemen squad amelioration CP2. As far as I tried it, mines are only affecting armored vehicles and not human squads. In COH, it was a great deal, because it was affecting human and also because Werhm vehicles had a shorter range of fire like the sdfk. Or you were able to manage a proper disengage (not a retreat) to drive a puma on the mine. Here, vehicles range is bigger and they can wipe a squad too fast to be able to drive them on a trap, of course it is still possible to mine so shockpoint where you know a vehicle will come soon or later but it is still a bet. The rest is situational, only sand bags have are interesting to defend a position or a vehicles. Airborn Doctrine: Pathfinder are interesting, the vision they provide is great. But what else? They are a support unit that can deal reasonable amount of damage but not more than any other unit already on the field, you cannot really use them as capping unit and need them have them following other unit. So is an additional range of vision really necessary at the beginning of the game? Not really from my point of view. This unit doesn’t not bring anything before line of combat are more of less settled up. I just dropped the mechanized Commander after my last game. Early jeep looks so nice I’ll try it my next game! |
Thread: What are your build orders?7 Jul 2014, 12:44 PM
Hello, I found the Armor doctrine interesting. Assault Engineer a CP0 is interesting because it gives you 3 units really fast. 1 RE 1x rifle and when it comes out, you have enough to call 1x Engineer, so coming simultaneous on the field: Rifle + Engy. RE go to cap on side map. Rifle + Engineer chase for fight. I try to engage asap the first german unit. Rifle as main force and Engineer to flank. Since now, usually my next unit is a 2nd rifle, but I want to try to built 2x RE to increase my fast pushing potential and keep pressuring the ennemi. I don't know if it works. So to resume: RE 1x Rifle + Engineer Squad 1x Rifle 1x ambulance Flammethrower As soon as I have 60 ammo + Upgrade fuel cache --- If good map control --- 1x lieutnant + MG or halftrak to secure the area. --- If I didn't secure enough territories --- 1x Commandant + AT gun as a puma or whatever else motorised will reach the field. EDIT: Many time, the opponent surrenders when the Halftrack hits the field. to be honest if this strat is well done, I don't see how he can come back. |
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