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Rangers have got to be reduced to 9 pop

10 Oct 2019, 04:18 AM
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10 pop is just too much for any infantry unit and Rangers really aren't so good they need to have a higher pop than Fallschrimjagers, Paratroopers or Obersoldaten. I can't think of another unit with a pop count so high. I know it's USF and we hate giving them buffs but still.
10 Oct 2019, 05:20 AM
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Fallschirmjager and Obersoldaten are 2.3 popcap each, compared to Rangers at 2 each.

Rangers have the benefit of a 5 man squad.
10 Oct 2019, 07:23 AM
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Fallschirmjager and Obersoldaten are 2.3 popcap each, compared to Rangers at 2 each.

Rangers have the benefit of a 5 man squad.

5 man squads aren't really a privilege for USF you know.
10 Oct 2019, 07:30 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post10 Oct 2019, 07:23 AMKatitof

5 man squads aren't really a privilege for USF you know.


Obersoldaten and Fallschirmjager are both 4 man squads, and those were his chosen comparisons. If they were 5 men, they would be 11-12 popcap.
10 Oct 2019, 09:53 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post10 Oct 2019, 04:18 AMCODGUY
I know it's USF and we hate giving them buffs but still.


Your act is getting really old.
10 Oct 2019, 12:36 PM
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Your act is getting really old.

Especially since rifles JUST got a buff. But we don't mention usf buffs right codguy?
10 Oct 2019, 14:53 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post10 Oct 2019, 04:18 AMCODGUY
I know it's USF and we hate giving them buffs but still.


You should realize that even if you might bring up a fair point, this attitude really does not help you sell it.

10 Oct 2019, 14:56 PM
#8
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pop cap reduction is not necessary

just add some useful skill
10 Oct 2019, 15:55 PM
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Fallschirmjager and Obersoldaten are 2.3 popcap each, compared to Rangers at 2 each.

Rangers have the benefit of a 5 man squad.


That's wrong. IIRC all models on infantry squads should be 1 pop each, while the squad as a whole has a different popcap value.

Ex: An Ober squad with only 1 model occupies 6 popcap.
10 Oct 2019, 17:00 PM
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Especially since rifles JUST got a buff. But we don't mention usf buffs right codguy?



He still says they suck.

We also don't mention USF is the strongest overall faction right now.
10 Oct 2019, 17:43 PM
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He still says they suck.

We also don't mention USF is the strongest overall faction right now.

If usf got a nuke that destroys the enemy base and units from fully teching like okw gets a KT he would complain that it forces 3 officers on you first. I don't put much weight behind any of the his claims
10 Oct 2019, 19:19 PM
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That's wrong. IIRC all models on infantry squads should be 1 pop each, while the squad as a whole has a different popcap value.

Ex: An Ober squad with only 1 model occupies 6 popcap.


Oh do they? I must be out of date then, it didn't used to work that way.
10 Oct 2019, 20:02 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post10 Oct 2019, 04:18 AMCODGUY
10 pop is just too much for any infantry unit and Rangers really aren't so good

BS dectector off charts and just broke. Must be probably a rant or even worse, nonsense...

Spoiler alert:
It is...
10 Oct 2019, 20:14 PM
#14
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BS dectector off charts and just broke. Must be probably a rant or even worse, nonsense...

Spoiler alert:
It is...


You should probably not cut me off essentially putting words in my mouth. I said Rangers aren't so good that they need to be 10 pop. Shocks are a 6 man unit and 9 pop, so are Paratroopers and Commandos (which are also a 5 man unit like Rangers).
10 Oct 2019, 22:54 PM
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I literally quoted the OP
11 Oct 2019, 01:57 AM
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I literally quoted the OP


In a deceptive manner yes.
11 Oct 2019, 04:28 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post11 Oct 2019, 01:57 AMCODGUY

I literally quoted the OP
In a deceptive manner yes.


Just In case, was this the missing part?
jump backJump back to quoted post10 Oct 2019, 04:18 AMCODGUY
...I know it's USF and we hate giving them buffs but still.


11 Oct 2019, 04:57 AM
#18
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Just In case, was this the missing part?




Is there not endless bitching and moaning about USF now that they improved Riflemen? Then they nerfed the M20 for no reason lol.
11 Oct 2019, 07:50 AM
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On paper I would agree but when you realize USF can still popcap abuse with vehicle crews it's really not the end of the world.

Especially when rangers can carry so many weapons
11 Oct 2019, 15:19 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post11 Oct 2019, 04:57 AMCODGUY
Is there not endless bitching and moaning about USF now that they improved Riflemen? Then they nerfed the M20 for no reason lol.


They nerfed the M20 because it was reportedly too powerful in high level play.

As for Rangers being 10 pop, sure, they could be 9. It'd make very little difference.
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