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Cons svt vs ppsh

23 Aug 2019, 21:41 PM
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Why does svts work better than ppsh on cons?
23 Aug 2019, 21:43 PM
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at long and mid range u may be right, but from 13 range and below ppsh have a clear advantage
24 Aug 2019, 16:47 PM
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Why does svts work better than ppsh on cons?


On most maps SVT's are better due to lack of sight blockers and lanes that are easy to lock down with MG's.
24 Aug 2019, 17:13 PM
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keep in mind PPsH have "hit the dirt" that if used well can greatly tip the scales in it's favor. Also, most people make the mistake of upgrading all their squads, with the 7 man upgrade it would be wise to split the upgrades and keep merging squads.
24 Aug 2019, 18:09 PM
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Why does svts work better than ppsh on cons?

It doesn't, these are 2 different weapons for 2 completely different playstyles.

What SVT has over ppsh is ability to share(especially with 2nd soviet player) and availability as it comes earlier.
24 Aug 2019, 21:11 PM
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I prefer ppsh
25 Aug 2019, 07:15 AM
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I prefer ppsh


Me too, mostly because PPSHs are in commanders with other good abilities
25 Aug 2019, 11:40 AM
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Svts has dps on par with stg volks at all ranges (and better at super close iirc) which means you pretty much win at all ranges regardless of what you do once you reach vet 3 lol. that added with being 6 men with 4 svts vs 3 ppsh, the only advantage of ppsh is hit the dirt but even that is like, meh.
25 Aug 2019, 16:40 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post24 Aug 2019, 17:13 PMzerocoh
keep in mind PPsH have "hit the dirt" that if used well can greatly tip the scales in it's favor. Also, most people make the mistake of upgrading all their squads, with the 7 man upgrade it would be wise to split the upgrades and keep merging squads.

What exactly does hit the dirt on cons do?
25 Aug 2019, 17:06 PM
#10
avatar of Raviloli

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What exactly does hit the dirt on cons do?


Instant yellow cover, it doesn't stack with normal cover so its usefulness falls off lategame but is still good for holding onto VPs
25 Aug 2019, 17:18 PM
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Instant yellow cover, it doesn't stack with normal cover so its usefulness falls off lategame but is still good for holding onto VPs

That is incorrect:

Hit the Dirt
-10% received damage, -20% accuracy, squad can't be suppressed, and can't move
25 Aug 2019, 17:33 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post25 Aug 2019, 17:18 PMVipper
Hit the Dirt
-10% received damage, -20% accuracy, squad can't be suppressed, and can't move


kek
25 Aug 2019, 19:23 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post25 Aug 2019, 17:18 PMVipper

That is incorrect:

Hit the Dirt
-10% received damage, -20% accuracy, squad can't be suppressed, and can't move

I fucking love your signature.
25 Aug 2019, 20:51 PM
#14
avatar of Mr. Someguy

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Don't Conscripts only get 2 PPSh vs 6 SVT's though? That would put the SVT firmly in the lead even for close range DPS, let alone long range DPS where the PPSh is actually a downgrade.
25 Aug 2019, 20:54 PM
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avatar of BlueKnight

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Don't Conscripts only get 2 PPSh vs 6 SVT's though? That would put the SVT firmly in the lead even for close range DPS, let alone long range DPS where the PPSh is actually a downgrade.


Afaik it's 3 PPSh + 3 mosins vs 4 SVT + 2 mosins
25 Aug 2019, 21:06 PM
#16
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Afaik it's 3 PPSh + 3 mosins vs 4 SVT + 2 mosins


Ah okay, I thought I saw 6 SVT when I zoomed in to look at 'em. I'll have to recheck later.
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