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Soviet Airbourne guards troops bulletins and stats

27 Jul 2019, 22:15 PM
#1
avatar of Unit G17

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Do Airbourne guards troops benefit from Guards rifle troops bulletins?
Also, I heard some rumors and even I feel like that their models seem to drop too easily. Can somebody experienced in modding confirm whether they are indeed weaker (by comparing them to some other squad) or whether it is just placebo?


Side question: does the Ostheer Jaeger command squad benefit from grenadier bulletins (including 'With extreme difficulty')?
27 Jul 2019, 22:22 PM
#2
avatar of Tiger Baron

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Bulletins affect models, not squads.

So for example, normal Grenadier bulletins affect the Ass Grens, and Osttruppen for some reason as well.

So it should go the same way for the Airborne Guards, normal Guard bulletins affecting them as well. At least that's what I remember reading, I don't really notice all of the small % difference in game.
28 Jul 2019, 10:07 AM
#3
avatar of Unit G17

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I need more than just assumptions. :/

I ended up downloading the modding tools. I could at least confirm that airbourne guards are identical to normal guards stats wise (apart from firing their lmgs on the move), but haven't managed to find much about bulletins yet. Seeing they have the same tags, I can also only assume they are affected as well.

As for the jaeger command squad, I still have no idea.
28 Jul 2019, 11:50 AM
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Checked in tools.

Do Airbourne guards troops benefit from Guards rifle troops bulletins?


Yes


Side question: does the Ostheer Jaeger command squad benefit from grenadier bulletins (including 'With extreme difficulty')?


No, strangely enough all 5 models have entity type "sniper"
28 Jul 2019, 13:06 PM
#5
avatar of Unit G17

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Checked in tools.
No, strangely enough all 5 models have entity type "sniper"


But at the same time the Artillery field officer also have these entity types and https://coh2db.com/bulletins/index claims that they benefit from grenadier bonuses.
28 Jul 2019, 13:20 PM
#6
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Checked in tools.



Yes




No, strangely enough all 5 models have entity type "sniper"


nice catch, one more proof, that Bulletins need to be polished and reviewed one day.
28 Jul 2019, 14:15 PM
#7
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But at the same time the Artillery field officer also have these entity types and https://coh2db.com/bulletins/index claims that they benefit from grenadier bonuses.


No, coh2db.com/bulletins shows only the 4 "assault_officer_grenadiers_bodyguard" models benefit, who have the Grenadier entity type.

Not the Artillery Officer himself, who has the Sniper entity type.
28 Jul 2019, 14:27 PM
#8
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No, coh2db.com/bulletins shows only the 4 "assault_officer_grenadiers_bodyguard" models benefit, who have the Grenadier entity type.

Not the Artillery Officer himself, who has the Sniper entity type.


I see, thanks!
28 Jul 2019, 19:50 PM
#9
avatar of Mazianni

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Does this mean the hero sniper bulletin affects Jaegers and the Artillery officer? lmao wew
28 Jul 2019, 23:13 PM
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28 Jul 2019, 23:14 PM
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Does this mean the hero sniper bulletin affects Jaegers and the Artillery officer? lmao wew


No, I'm not an expert at this kind of stuff, but for that bulletin you also need the unit type "sniper_german", which only the German Sniper has:



It's confusing, but I'm sure there's some kind of logic behind it.
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