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27 Jun 2019, 00:11 AM
#221
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The Ostwind is fine as it. The only complaints are from Allied players who can’t deal with the horror of Wehrmacht finally having a window where it can be a proactive, not reactive faction.

27 Jun 2019, 03:02 AM
#222
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Yes, make the centaur 90 fuel. Case closed. Original poster thinks that 2 Ostwinds should be able to punish an already low health T34??? LOL. Even the Centaur does damage to mediums with each burst.
27 Jun 2019, 09:18 AM
#223
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how did this become from nerf ostwind to buff centaur ? i mean buffing centaur does nothing to USF and soviet
27 Jun 2019, 09:42 AM
#224
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27 Jun 2019, 10:07 AM
#225
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Just make it 100 fuel and we gut

^ If its as good as centaur, no need for it to cost less then centaur.

(inb4 muh armur - ost more then makes up for that in speed)
27 Jun 2019, 11:20 AM
#226
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It has become "buff Centaur" which has nothing to do with Ostwind in first place thanks to wehraboo circlejerk who derailed the point of this topic in every possible way. All this Centraur rubbish is just classic whataboutism.

Increasing cost of Ostwind is the absolute least that should be done to it.

Skipping T1/T2 with new commander to rush it is also shouldnt be a thing, schreks should be locked behind T2
27 Jun 2019, 13:22 PM
#227
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Can we throw in like a 10F increase to the ostwind in there?
27 Jun 2019, 13:31 PM
#228
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Can we throw in like a 10F increase to the ostwind in there?


It's scheduled for a minor price increase to 300MP and 100FU to better reflect its new performance.
27 Jun 2019, 14:31 PM
#229
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fair
28 Jun 2019, 09:15 AM
#230
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OstWin just shows allies actually have to have a balanced army and if not they get punished.

Just like Ostheer has for years?
28 Jun 2019, 19:01 PM
#231
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OstWin just shows allies actually have to have a balanced army and if not they get punished.

Just like Ostheer has for years?


It comes faster than centaur and more deadly against inf. 1 ATG won't stop ostwind, 2 are costy and won't work if it got panzer tactic that could drop smoke, let alone ATGs are short at mobility. Ostwinds can bleed allies hard on manpower. either lower its damage slightly below centaur or nerf its range by 5 would make sense.
29 Jun 2019, 03:10 AM
#232
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It comes faster than centaur and more deadly against inf. 1 ATG won't stop ostwind, 2 are costy and won't work if it got panzer tactic that could drop smoke, let alone ATGs are short at mobility. Ostwinds can bleed allies hard on manpower. either lower its damage slightly below centaur or nerf its range by 5 would make sense.


Actually a single at gun isn't able to stop T70 either. It all depends on positioning.
29 Jun 2019, 03:48 AM
#233
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This is by far the most troll thread in a while. Just close it, since everyone that discussed politely has agreed that Ostwinds could use a slight price nerf. Period.

As far as i am concerned it was both, the new T2 skip + Ostind buff the responsible for the new shock value Ost has. It is not a wise solution to nerf its stats since it does not overperform any of their counterparts in the same time frame. In other words 1 T34 > 1 Ostwind.
2 Jul 2019, 16:47 PM
#234
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Actually a single at gun isn't able to stop T70 either. It all depends on positioning.

It's not exactly the same. A single AT can not kill a T-70 but can prevent its aggressive movement in some certain area well. But Ostwind can deal a lot damage from distance, meaning that even u have a AT in front of the Ostwind, it can still bleed u hard. And the biggest difference between them maybe when counter AT infs. PGs or Fusilers with 2 shercks can defend them from T-70s while Guards or bazooka teams are wiped out quickly by Ostwind.
Nerfing it's range or far aquracy is reasonable.
2 Jul 2019, 16:58 PM
#235
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It's not exactly the same. A single AT can not kill a T-70 but can prevent its aggressive movement in some certain area well. But Ostwind can deal a lot damage from distance, meaning that even u have a AT in front of the Ostwind, it can still bleed u hard. And the biggest difference between them maybe when counter AT infs. PGs or Fusilers with 2 shercks can defend them from T-70s while Guards or bazooka teams are wiped out quickly by Ostwind.
Nerfing it's range or far aquracy is reasonable.
??? u know ostwind has 110 armor right ? zook destroys it if u have enough
3 Jul 2019, 17:27 PM
#236
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??? u know ostwind has 110 armor right ? zook destroys it if u have enough

their range are almost the same and ostwind wipe out infs quickly at max range. A shecks team can defend themselves against a T-70 while even 2 zook teams will be not enough to hold the line against ostwind in open battle. Of course u could kill it with 8 zooks or more. But that's costy and leaving u got little AI firepowers. The problem is the range not the armor.
3 Jul 2019, 17:30 PM
#237
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Ostwind should take some risk when attacking AT infs
3 Jul 2019, 18:25 PM
#238
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their range are almost the same and ostwind wipe out infs quickly at max range. A shecks team can defend themselves against a T-70 while even 2 zook teams will be not enough to hold the line against ostwind in open battle. Of course u could kill it with 8 zooks or more. But that's costy and leaving u got little AI firepowers. The problem is the range not the armor.

I dunno, both of them have the same range. T-70 will take longer to entirely fight off a bunch of AT infantry running at it due to its cheaper cost and correspondingly weaker damage, but both of them are basically going to inflict free manpower bleed when micromanaged effectively because they outrun and outrange handheld AT without much trouble.
13 Jul 2019, 16:44 PM
#239
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jump backJump back to quoted post3 Jul 2019, 18:25 PMVuther

I dunno, both of them have the same range. T-70 will take longer to entirely fight off a bunch of AT infantry running at it due to its cheaper cost and correspondingly weaker damage, but both of them are basically going to inflict free manpower bleed when micromanaged effectively because they outrun and outrange handheld AT without much trouble.

Ostwinds need much less micros to keep the distance. I most circumstances, all u have to do is right clicking on AT infs and it can wipe them out with huge DPS and Allies' AT infs got less DPH relying on continous firing.
13 Jul 2019, 17:19 PM
#240
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Ostwinds need much less micros to keep the distance. I most circumstances, all u have to do is right clicking on AT infs and it can wipe them out with huge DPS and Allies' AT infs got less DPH relying on continous firing.
why ? is it faster ? they have the same range
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